So you guys dont think Monta at least has a valid point? These past two seasons it has seemed like the warriors have had at least 15 different starting lineups. You dont see all the great teams out there starting all sorts of random players throughout the season. They find their starters and if one gets injured they put someone that was already in the rotation in the starting line up. They dont put a guy that was just called up from the D-League a few days before as a starter.

oh I definitely think he has a point

when the good teams make a change to their starting 5, it's big news. You read all about it. Here it's an everyday thing

Some of that has to do with all the injuries, but some of it has to do with what Coach alluded to in another post. The truth is we just aren't that good, not that consistent and Nelly substitutes until he finds combos of players that work. Unfortunately once he finds a combo that works, he tends to forget it works, and just goes on substituting.

But that wasn't always the case, If you'll remember 2 years ago in the 48 game win season, there was very little substitution. 7 players got the vast majority of the minutes. Those who wanted to see Brandan Wright play so as to develop this talent that we payed JRich to get were very disappointed at how little playing time he got.

This injured tag really pisses me off, because this year we've learned so little about our young talent now for the second year in a row. When Wright got injured, at least I thought we could get a good handle this year on just how good AR is, but Nelly just chose to get Mikki Moore, Hunter and then Rad and rotate them with Randolph so we aren't much closer to evaluating him and seeing what he can really do.
It was critical to evaluate how Keleena fit in our long term plans, if at all. He started out like a bat out of hell , then Keleena gets injured.

Didn't some one post a statistic regarding Nelson and injuries?
I'd like to see that.

I like a lot of the passing I'm seeing this year. This offensive scheme I see them using is so much better to watch than the stand around and chuck approach.

I like the effort I'm seeing from Turiaf, Tolliver and Biedrins to at least have some defensive and post presence. It was sorely missed!

Stephen Curry!

just trying to say something positive for a change...

taken from he Bill Simmons trade value column today:

Anthony Randolph: A top-40 lock on nearly any other team. NBA Cares should launch a program rehabbing the mental state of Warriors fans. What an insane team to root for. You shouldn't have to go online every morning hoping that this wasn't the day your team stupidly traded a potential 24-10-5 guy who's 20 years old because your overpaid, mailing-it-in, hoping-to-get-canned-so-he-can-move-back-to-Hawaii curmudgeon of a coach didn't "like the way he looked at me at practice today." Find this team a real owner and clean house.

Monta Ellis: Should we say he's putting up big stats because he's playing for a crummy team, or should we be impressed that he's only 24 and averaging a 26-5-4 right now? Tough call. I trust the collective intuition of Warriors fans as much as any NBA fan base -- it's between Warriors fans, Raptors fans and Knicks fans in any "most realistic about their own players" contest -- and even they seem perplexed by Monta. Let's marinate on him for another year.

Tarantism wrote:taken from he Bill Simmons trade value column today:

Anthony Randolph: A top-40 lock on nearly any other team. NBA Cares should launch a program rehabbing the mental state of Warriors fans. What an insane team to root for. You shouldn't have to go online every morning hoping that this wasn't the day your team stupidly traded a potential 24-10-5 guy who's 20 years old because your overpaid, mailing-it-in, hoping-to-get-canned-so-he-can-move-back-to-Hawaii curmudgeon of a coach didn't "like the way he looked at me at practice today." Find this team a real owner and clean house.

Monta Ellis: Should we say he's putting up big stats because he's playing for a crummy team, or should we be impressed that he's only 24 and averaging a 26-5-4 right now? Tough call. I trust the collective intuition of Warriors fans as much as any NBA fan base -- it's between Warriors fans, Raptors fans and Knicks fans in any "most realistic about their own players" contest -- and even they seem perplexed by Monta. Let's marinate on him for another year.

I do like him quite alot some times............completely spot on with both.

Also:

32. Stephen Curry
Even more sophisticated offensively than we hoped. Defensively ... ugh. But offensively? Wow. His January stats (15 games): 19-4-5, 48 percent FG, 48 percent 3FG, 89.2 percent FT. For the season, assuming he bumps his scoring to 17 PPG post-All-Star break and everything else stays the same, he'd finish with 16 PPG, 120-plus 3s and 42 percent shooting from 3. According to Vincent Masi of ESPN Stats & Information, no rookie came close to hitting those numbers except for Ben Gordon in 2004-05 (15.1 PPG, 134 3s, 40.5 percent). Elias reports that 21 players have done the 16-120-42 thing since 2000-01; only three were younger than 26 (Ray Allen, Leandro Barbosa and Gordon), and none were younger than 23.

random warrior tidbit I came across the other day..

Anthony Randolph is the 2nd youngest player in the NBA.

Found that interesting that even being in his 2nd season, only one player in the entire league is younger than him.

bada wrote:random warrior tidbit I came across the other day..

Anthony Randolph is the 2nd youngest player in the NBA.

Found that interesting that even being in his 2nd season, only one player in the entire league is younger than him.

Exactly...........and like all young kids, in a world where they are surrounded by those who are older and more experienced =

The best way to treat them is to humiliate and chastise them for everything they do, whilst showing them that passion and standing up for your self is a bad thing............all the while not doing those things to others who do the same/worse as you, hence being a complete hypocrite and making you feel like its you against the world.

Just what every KID needs.............way to go you old fat f*ck, nice way to ensure that we do not have a hope in hell of Randolph re-signing here once he becomes a free agent with a chance to get out of here.

you forgot this part:
if you are a draft pick that I personally did not want, I will tell the media you dont work hard and you must earn your minutes, but if you are one of my personal "pet" d-league projects, I will play you 35+min in your first game despite not having one practice under your belt or not one minute played in the league.

bada wrote:you forgot this part:
if you are a draft pick that I personally did not want, I will tell the media you dont work hard and you must earn your minutes, but if you are one of my personal "pet" d-league projects, I will play you 35+min in your first game despite not having one practice under your belt or not one minute played in the league.

Yeah, thats under the "humiliate" and "be a hypocrite" bits.

bada wrote:random warrior tidbit I came across the other day..

Anthony Randolph is the 2nd youngest player in the NBA.

Found that interesting that even being in his 2nd season, only one player in the entire league is younger than him.

Yeah, and this team already looks ready to give up on him...

TMC wrote:

bada wrote:random warrior tidbit I came across the other day..

Anthony Randolph is the 2nd youngest player in the NBA.

Found that interesting that even being in his 2nd season, only one player in the entire league is younger than him.

Yeah, and this team already looks ready to give up on him...

pure madness

The Cleveland Cavaliers have had discussions with the Golden State Warriors about swingman Corey Maggette, but as of late Tuesday afternoon the teams hadn’t talked for four days, league sources said. If the Maggette-for-Zydrunas Ilgauskas talks don’t pick up, the Warriors are skeptical about their chances of making any deal before Thursday’s deadline. Yahoo

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By and large, the Warriors seem happy at the prospect of standing pat at Thursday's trade deadline, but talks about dealing forward Corey Maggette persist. League executives believe Maggette could be traded to Cleveland if deals for the Cavaliers' top three choices fall through. Cleveland is said to be chasing Amare Stoudemire, Antawn Jamison and Troy Murphy before it would consider Maggette, who has three years and more than $30 million remaining on his contract after this season. -San Francisco Chronicle

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