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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:57 pm
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: LeBron James (Clev) 808,570; Chris Bosh (Tor) 304,624; Jermaine O’Neal (Ind) 258,139, Paul Pierce (Bos) 187,138; Grant Hill (Orl) 168,695; Rasheed Wallace (Det) 144,228; Andre Iguodala (Phi) 136, 785; Emeka Okafor (Char) 98,502; Tayshaun Prince (Det) 93,514; Chris Webber (Phi) 88,066.

Guards: Allen Iverson (Phi) 595,200; Dwyane Wade (Mia) 586,679; Vince Carter (NJ) 433,363; Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 225,923; Jason Kidd (NJ) 190,385; Chauncey Billups (Det) 109,687; Stephon Marbury (NY) 107,219; Michael Redd (Mil) 97,394; Joe Johnson (Atl) 78,680; Steve Francis (NY) 76,210.


Centers: Shaquille O'Neal (Mia) 522,815; Dwight Howard (Orl) 415,708; Ben Wallace (Chi) 216,443; Alonzo Mourning (Mia) 65,255; Andrew Bogut (Mil) 46,178; Zaza Pachulia (Atl) 39,921; Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Clev) 38,590; Nenad Krstic (NJ) 33,459; Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 30,744; Nazr Mohammed (Det) 30,078.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: Kevin Garnett (Minn) 453,536; Tim Duncan (SA) 423,228; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 405,613; Carmelo Anthony (Den) 364,419; Shane Battier (Hou) 265,340; Lamar Odom (LAL) 155,289; Shawn Marion (Pho) 130,710; Josh Howard (Dal) 118,399; Carlos Boozer (Utah) 113,289; Pau Gasol (Mem) 100,192.


Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 720,375;
Tracy McGrady (Hou) 668,130; Steve Nash (Pho) 432,083; Chris Paul (NOK) 156,801; Jason Terry (Dal) 126,648; Manu Ginobili (SA) 125,076; Tony Parker (SA) 118,417; Ray Allen (Sea) 111,841; Jerry Stackhouse (Dal) 104,308; Baron Davis (GS) 93,777.


Centers: Yao Ming (Hou) 836,392; Amaré Stoudemire (Pho) 281,051; Erick Dampier (Dal) 118,557; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 102,760; Marcus Camby (Den) 64,082; Brad Miller (Sac) 33,376; Francisco Elson (SA) 33,161; Chris Kaman (LAC) 32,151; Chris Mihm (LAL) 31,883; Tyson Chandler (NOK) 25,504.

Those Dickwads in houston totally screw up the allstar voting. Not that it matters since he won't make the team but how the hell did shane battier get so many votes? Did he have a 93 point game that I missed? Houston fans have always gave their players too many votes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:01 pm
Yes i agree. I say votes from Chinese should only count for one fourth (1/4) a whole vote.

American Chinese count for 1/2 a vote.

That'll even things up.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:05 pm
How do J. Stackhouse, Terry, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker deserve to be all-stars in front of Baron?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:39 pm
Biedrins is not even on the ballot. Truthfully (if you count people like Duncan and Stoudamire as PFs and Dre as a C) he's the second best center in the West. Possible exception for Camby.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:23 pm
Yeah and what's even more stupid is guys like Francisco Elson are on the list. This is what I hate about the all star game. It's always lil kids going nuts, including China, voting for "the best player" at that position. I'd like to see the day where the proven players deserve a spot.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:06 pm
Hopefully this last game gives Baron a boost.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:43 am
Quite wrong that Biedrins is not there and Baron is not polling high!

Expect things to change a bit in the next month
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:58 am
ha, what about Chris Mihm getting votes, wtf is that all about, he hasnt played a minute all season and isnt going to.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:17 am
also, how in God's name is TMAC ahead of Nash at guard?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:14 am
xBayAreaWarriorx wrote:Yeah and what's even more stupid is guys like Francisco Elson are on the list. This is what I hate about the all star game. It's always lil kids going nuts, including China, voting for "the best player" at that position. I'd like to see the day where the proven players deserve a spot.


Yep. I've always thought that internet vote shouldn't be allowed. And players should have played a certain number of games to be voted. How can Gasol hava 100,192 votes without having played a single game this season? :banghead:
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:30 am
tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:EASTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: LeBron James (Clev) 808,570; Chris Bosh (Tor) 304,624; Jermaine O’Neal (Ind) 258,139, Paul Pierce (Bos) 187,138; Grant Hill (Orl) 168,695; Rasheed Wallace (Det) 144,228; Andre Iguodala (Phi) 136, 785; Emeka Okafor (Char) 98,502; Tayshaun Prince (Det) 93,514; Chris Webber (Phi) 88,066.


Not bad ratings here, except for Grant Hill who has just not done enough to be allstar this season. It should be Lebron, Bosh, Okafor (who could be listed as Center as well), Jermaine (who also could be listed as Center as well) and Pierce. Rasheed may make it but Jamison should be up there as well


tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:Guards: Allen Iverson (Phi) 595,200; Dwyane Wade (Mia) 586,679; Vince Carter (NJ) 433,363; Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 225,923; Jason Kidd (NJ) 190,385; Chauncey Billups (Det) 109,687; Stephon Marbury (NY) 107,219; Michael Redd (Mil) 97,394; Joe Johnson (Atl) 78,680; Steve Francis (NY) 76,210.


Joe Johnson and Red should be much higher and Marbury and Francis should be nowhere to be found! The rest of the list is right, the order can be argued on


tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:Centers: Shaquille O'Neal (Mia) 522,815; Dwight Howard (Orl) 415,708; Ben Wallace (Chi) 216,443; Alonzo Mourning (Mia) 65,255; Andrew Bogut (Mil) 46,178; Zaza Pachulia (Atl) 39,921; Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Clev) 38,590; Nenad Krstic (NJ) 33,459; Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 30,744; Nazr Mohammed (Det) 30,078.


Jermaine and Okafor should be counted as Centers as well. Shaq should not even be listed! Krstic and Dwight should be the top Centers out of this bunch listed



tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:WESTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: Kevin Garnett (Minn) 453,536; Tim Duncan (SA) 423,228; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 405,613; Carmelo Anthony (Den) 364,419; Shane Battier (Hou) 265,340; Lamar Odom (LAL) 155,289; Shawn Marion (Pho) 130,710; Josh Howard (Dal) 118,399; Carlos Boozer (Utah) 113,289; Pau Gasol (Mem) 100,192.


Boozer not getting any respect! Battier just hasn't done anywhere near enough and Gasol hasn't even played a game! I'm al for Carmelo starting because he has been awesome. No Elton Brand is also an insult!


tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 720,375;
Tracy McGrady (Hou) 668,130; Steve Nash (Pho) 432,083; Chris Paul (NOK) 156,801; Jason Terry (Dal) 126,648; Manu Ginobili (SA) 125,076; Tony Parker (SA) 118,417; Ray Allen (Sea) 111,841; Jerry Stackhouse (Dal) 104,308; Baron Davis (GS) 93,777.


Baron and Allen get no respect here! Nash, Kobe and TMac (could also be listed as SF) are the only sure things out of the rest listed. Deron Williams should be mentioned at least as should Monta!


tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:Centers: Yao Ming (Hou) 836,392; Amaré Stoudemire (Pho) 281,051; Erick Dampier (Dal) 118,557; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 102,760; Marcus Camby (Den) 64,082; Brad Miller (Sac) 33,376; Francisco Elson (SA) 33,161; Chris Kaman (LAC) 32,151; Chris Mihm (LAL) 31,883; Tyson Chandler (NOK) 25,504.



Just stupid that Biedrins is not only not listed, but ranked third at worst here! Ming, Amare, Camby and Biedrins best Centers for me
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:42 am
migya wrote:Just stupid that Biedrins is not only not listed, but ranked third at worst here! Ming, Amare, Camby and Biedrins best Centers for me


Biedrins is not on the Ballot, migya. That means he won't get the votes he deserves.

This whole process of votes for the all star is laughable. I don't even watch the all star anymore. It's more like a circus than a bball game (I mean, even more than before).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:29 am
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migya wrote:Just stupid that Biedrins is not only not listed, but ranked third at worst here! Ming, Amare, Camby and Biedrins best Centers for me


Biedrins is not on the Ballot, migya. That means he won't get the votes he deserves.

This whole process of votes for the all star is laughable. I don't even watch the all star anymore. It's more like a circus than a bball game (I mean, even more than before).


It doesn't really matter that he's not on the ballot I guess. Yao is far away the best center and should start and the ballots are only about who is starting anyway. Still it showcases a (not exactly surprising) lack of respect for the dubs and their players
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:38 am
The Warriors don't get enough media attention. They need to just keep winning to get more exposure. I remember last (or two years ago?) DAVID WESLEY was ahead of Jason Richardson for the all-star game. It was ridiculous. And don't worry about BD: if he keeps playing like a MVP candidiate the coaches will definitely reward him and make him a reserve at least.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:31 am
cladden wrote:It doesn't really matter that he's not on the ballot I guess.


Yeah, well, you can still vote for him. Just look for his name in the box below... but the casual fan won't do that, as most well known players are in the ballot. Actually, most casual fans won't ever have heard of Biedrins. And I'm pretty sure most votes come from those fans.
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