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Let me help put the sanity back into this interesting conversation and super popular thread. Ibverson and Davis CAN PLAY TOGETHER!, if it came down to that. Why? Because both are basketball players. Great players adjust their games to fit into the frame work of the team. Who would have thought that Wilt Chamberlin could play with Jerry West? How about Kareem and Oscar? Bird, McHale, and Parrish? Jordan and Pippin? Shaq and Kobe? The list goes on and on.

Allen Iverson Plays the way he does because passing to himself is usually the best option. Iverson is skilled enough to play with ANYONE. He plays much bigger than his size. Whoever gets Iverson is getting a very rare ball player.

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ReginaldLewis wrote:Let me help put the sanity back into this interesting conversation and super popular thread. Ibverson and Davis CAN PLAY TOGETHER!, if it came down to that. Why? Because both are basketball players. Great players adjust their games to fit into the frame work of the team. Who would have thought that Wilt Chamberlin could play with Jerry West? How about Kareem and Oscar? Bird, McHale, and Parrish? Jordan and Pippin? Shaq and Kobe? The list goes on and on.

Allen Iverson Plays the way he does because passing to himself is usually the best option. Iverson is skilled enough to play with ANYONE. He plays much bigger than his size. Whoever gets Iverson is getting a very rare ball player.


Great post! Frazier and Monroe come immediately to mind!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:26 pm
ReginaldLewis wrote:Let me help put the sanity back into this interesting conversation and super popular thread. Ibverson and Davis CAN PLAY TOGETHER!, if it came down to that. Why? Because both are basketball players. Great players adjust their games to fit into the frame work of the team. Who would have thought that Wilt Chamberlin could play with Jerry West? How about Kareem and Oscar? Bird, McHale, and Parrish? Jordan and Pippin? Shaq and Kobe? The list goes on and on.


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ReginaldLewis wrote:Let me help put the sanity back into this interesting conversation and super popular thread. Ibverson and Davis CAN PLAY TOGETHER!, if it came down to that. Why? Because both are basketball players. Great players adjust their games to fit into the frame work of the team. Who would have thought that Wilt Chamberlin could play with Jerry West? How about Kareem and Oscar? Bird, McHale, and Parrish? Jordan and Pippin? Shaq and Kobe? The list goes on and on.

Allen Iverson Plays the way he does because passing to himself is usually the best option. Iverson is skilled enough to play with ANYONE. He plays much bigger than his size. Whoever gets Iverson is getting a very rare ball player.


Great post! Frazier and Monroe come immediately to mind!


Baron and AI would never work. Both of these guys think shoot first pass second and both of them shoot like crap. They would monopolize the rock 90% of the time and the poor other three players stuck with them would do alot of standing around watching this ego show. No f'ing thanks!

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uptempo wrote:
ReginaldLewis wrote:Let me help put the sanity back into this interesting conversation and super popular thread. Ibverson and Davis CAN PLAY TOGETHER!, if it came down to that. Why? Because both are basketball players. Great players adjust their games to fit into the frame work of the team. Who would have thought that Wilt Chamberlin could play with Jerry West? How about Kareem and Oscar? Bird, McHale, and Parrish? Jordan and Pippin? Shaq and Kobe? The list goes on and on.

Allen Iverson Plays the way he does because passing to himself is usually the best option. Iverson is skilled enough to play with ANYONE. He plays much bigger than his size. Whoever gets Iverson is getting a very rare ball player.


Great post! Frazier and Monroe come immediately to mind!


Baron and AI would never work. Both of these guys think shoot first pass second and both of them shoot like crap. They would monopolize the rock 90% of the time and the poor other three players stuck with them would do alot of standing around watching this ego show. No f'ing thanks!


Baron only looks to shoot first when he is playing with an incomplete group of players. With a strong point guard, AI can move well without the ball, brush off of screens, and get open by punishing defenders through movement (he did this when teamed with Eric Snow).

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Baron is a distributor unlike Starbury or Stevie Franchise :!:
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O.G. broe wrote:Baron is a distributor unlike Starbury or Stevie Franchise :!:


Amen!

Last night's game reaffirms OG's above statement. Look at Baron's stats from the Kings game...and the Warriors won, too!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:29 pm
uptempo wrote:
O.G. broe wrote:Baron is a distributor unlike Starbury or Stevie Franchise :!:


Amen!

Last night's game reaffirms OG's above statement. Look at Baron's stats from the Kings game...and the Warriors won, too!


That was the most "team" productive game Baron has ever played as a Warrior. I was shocked and pleasantly surprised watching the game. He still shot like a piece of crap though. 4 for 15 which is 26% really sucks.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:36 pm
jsw548 wrote:
uptempo wrote:
O.G. broe wrote:Baron is a distributor unlike Starbury or Stevie Franchise :!:


Amen!

Last night's game reaffirms OG's above statement. Look at Baron's stats from the Kings game...and the Warriors won, too!


That was the most "team" productive game Baron has ever played as a Warrior. I was shocked and pleasantly surprised watching the game. He still shot like a piece of crap though. 4 for 15 which is 26% really sucks.


Ever? What about the game he had a week or so ago when he had 18 dimes? :scratch:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:58 pm
It doesnt look like this is really relavant because if we do make the trade baron is the one everyone is talking about trading (along with AB!!!!! and a third player) It makes we want to throw up just talking about it. I refuse to believe Mullin would do this and im keeping the faith but the times said the trade was basically finished!! Im just praying right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:14 pm
jer7o7 wrote:Fitz and Brooks just shot down the AI for Davis and Biedrins trade.. They said that trade was a complete joke... if the warriors do that trade, i will no longer be a fan..


Hmm we trade our two best and irreplaceable players for AI. Mullin may be generous, or overly optimistic about the abilities of Murphy, Foyle and Dunleavy but Philly would of called in the chips days ago if this offer was on the table. Baron when healthy is top 10 point guard and Biedrins is clearly a top 5 center in the West. Ellis has great upside and is a fun player but didn't we have a duplicate a couple years back in Earl Boykins who still wins the close games for Denver. Thanks to Nellie, who has a history of mentoring young players (unlike Musselman or Monty) he will poke and prode Biedrins and Ellis to superstar and even all-star levels. He has transformed journeyman Matt Barnes into a stud small forward and has the no basketball IQ Pietrus playing at JRich type of level despite his shaky background (inconsistent and crappy with Monty and equally bad with the French team). There are not many teams without two starters (Diogu and Richardson) that have taken on San Antonio and Utah. The only reason to trade for AI, is to clear space to resign Biedrins and only Biedrins. The only way to resign Ellis is to trade a bad contract at the end of the season for an expiring contract. (Jr. and J-Rich seem to be the best candidates, with Foyle and Murphy having zero trade value even for an expiring contract.)
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"Ellis has great upside and is a fun player but didn't we have a duplicate a couple years back in Earl Boykins who still wins the close games for Denver"
Ellis is a million times better than boykins has ever been already and ellis is only 21. Not even close to a duplicate. Think Gilbert Arenas if you want to see what ellis' career arc will most likely be like
"Thanks to Nellie, who has a history of mentoring young players (unlike Musselman or Monty) he will poke and prode Biedrins and Ellis to superstar and even all-star levels"

Ellis would be an allstar with any coach

"superstar and even allstar" is a kind of stupid phrase since superstar is better than allstar

"The only reason to trade for AI, is to clear space to resign Biedrins and only Biedrins. "

ummm..... I think the only reason to trade for AI is.... to get AI

"The only way to resign Ellis is to trade a bad contract at the end of the season for an expiring contract. (Jr. and J-Rich seem to be the best candidates, with Foyle and Murphy having zero trade value even for an expiring contract.)"

now the genius says that Dunleavy has a more tradeable contract than murphy. and that j-rich has a bad contract. And that a player who we have bird and arenas rights to sign no matter what is unatainable unless we trade these badly defined contracts
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:41 pm
ritchie wrote:Ahhh, well fellas, saw this lil tidbit at the NY Daily News:

Warriors working to land Iverson

By MITCH LAWRENCE
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Allen Iverson

Allen Iverson's departure from Philadelphia might be coming very soon, as Sixers GM Billy King told another Eastern Conference executive last night that he has "two deals on the table, ready to go."

One of the deals King was strongly considering is with Golden State, for point guard Baron Davis, center Andris Biedrins and a third unidentified player. In addition to Iverson, the Warriors would get backup center Steven Hunter. While a source close to one of the players involved called the deal "done," the Sixers remain quiet about where they will be sending Iverson.


"It makes sense for the Sixers to make the deal with Golden State," an Eastern Conference executive said last night. "It's the situation the Pacers were in last year with Ron Artest. It's better to get those guys out of your conference, unless you're getting a blockbuster in return."


Meanwhile, the Warriors' opponents last night, the Kings, took themselves out of contention for Iverson, according to co-owner Joe Maloof. The Pacers and Celtics were regarded as the teams in the East trying hardest to get Iverson. But a league official said that his conversations with the Pacers strongly indicated that they are just about out of the running, since they don't want to part with Danny Granger or any other players King wanted.


Since announcing last week that they are trading their disgruntled superstar, the Sixers have been holding out for a deal that will get them a combination of the following: players with expiring contracts, so they can avoid paying the luxury tax next season; a good young player; and draft picks. Earlier yesterday, they reportedly rejected the Clippers' offer of Corey Maggette and Cuttino Mobley, with Mobley's deal having three more years to run at nearly $30 million.


Earlier in trade talks, Golden State had been trying to move veterans with long-term deals, including Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy and Adonal Foyle. But the Sixers asked for Biedrins - a third-year player who turns 21 in April - Monta Ellis or Mickael Pietrus. If the deal with Golden State goes through, it will allow Iverson to play in Don Nelson's freewheeling offensive system. The Warriors feel that Iverson would give them a great chance to get into the playoffs for the first time since 1994.

Originally published on December 13, 2006


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/479688p-403581c.htm


I would trade BD aand MP but AB hell no i would add in troy murpy or POB with the deal
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:46 pm
WestCoast O wrote:Hey...

any word out of the papers/radio?

i heard on KNBR yesterday that AI dont want to play here becusewe're not a playoff team and he want to play for a team that can win the champ
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:01 pm
zshook wrote:First of all if we trade BD, Who is our distributor. Mike D? I know how much you guys hate him.
Barron is averageing 9 dimes a game.
We can already score the ball. We need Defence not offence.
Besides we won last night with 6 active guys. Just think when we have a full roster full of healthy guys. Jrich will come back its just a matter of time,
and put in his potential points with the way our bench can play, we dont need AI.
We will be fine.

AI can past the ball his career adverage is 6.1 that petty good
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