coltraning wrote:look at the false idol whale run for cover before the wrath of the rabbit

tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:

#32 wrote:Jesus was a carpenter

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SoCooLBob wrote:As an example of several elements of many discussions.

migya wrote:Like I've said, people that have a belief or faith, it's with them. I just like to make a logical decision on what I know and have discovered - It is why we have a brain and intelligence!

If, in the setting of any goal or in the solution to any problem, YOU determnie that a Logical Decision is the key ... then that is probably where you put your "faith." Logical decisions are a good thing.

I would certainly agree that logic and decision making have their place.
The question might then be do we have a soul? Logically? How do we determine that? With our brain? If we have a soul then what's it for and how do we use that?

Belief is something we "do."
Belief is something we "choose."
I don't believe that
The "logical" part for me is to recommend to do one's best to choose those beliefs that will result in you achieving your best ... naturally, spiritually, religiously, even logically, perhaps, I always have a tendency to add ... achieve your best for yourself AND others.

Is it logical to ASK God for the answers?
Is it logical to suggest that in the past when I've ASKED God for the answer to a particular question, for the help that I needed to achieve a goal ... that I got it.
Scientists "believe" in some things that work every time and place their "faith" in those things they perceive to work every time.
I have a tendency to think that God created Science.
Even more importantly, for me ... I"ve discovered that as I set and achieved goals I wanted to set and achieve more.
Many times, the things I perceive my heart to want ... and my mind ... may not simultaneously be perceived as achieveable by me.
In ALL those situations I want and prefer HELP.
I have found "The Big Fellow's" Help Is Most Significant
Logical?
I think so ... but I also think that the answers that come ... may not be "logical." They may be right, they may have incredible value ... but not be logical.

migya wrote:
I believe that we live in a world that is very negative and thus influencing the nurturing of the insecure and negative. Therefore it is essential for most people to believe in a higher power to get through hard times and for the feeling of assistance - That is alright and something i fully agree with and support because it allows individuals to feel more positive inthis fascist contolled existence (so far at least, things will change). I look at the whole picture of EXISTENCE - This world, this universe and any other universe that may exist! I therefore try to go above the insecure as often as possible and try to look at the ultimate truth as often as I can, because it is what's real and why look at what isn't.

As far as soul - I don't believe we are just a heap of flesh! We are all sovereign spirits that live in this realm for now and are working our way up to being sovereign HERE.

migya wrote:humanity as a whole is being dictated to