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Will Nelson's overall effect make the Warriors better or worse as a whole?

Much Better! 50 Wins!
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He'll wake up Golden State's talent... 40 wins.
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Nelson won't help. Same record.
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He'll pull a Larry Brown and actually make the team WORSE.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:27 am
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O.G. broe wrote:Quit contradicting yourself, If it were up to you Musselman would be the head coach (READ 0 Titles 0 playoffs 0 playing experience) instead of Nellie :crazy:


Are you saying that Monty was a better coach than Musselman?


I sometimes don't agree with Broe... but, who brought up Monty in this argument?

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O.G. broe wrote:Quit contradicting yourself, If it were up to you Musselman would be the head coach (READ 0 Titles 0 playoffs 0 playing experience) instead of Nellie :crazy:


Are you saying that Monty was a better coach than Musselman?
UUH No I am pointing out you are a hypocrite by trying to discredit Don Nelson and his credentials because he hasnt been to a championship but yet you have overly endorsed Mussleman who hasnt even been to the playoffs let alone a championship and he also fell out with multiple players on the TEAM which constituted the coaching change so there wouldnt be a revolt of the young TEAM that Mullin was and is still commited to developing :!: Muss wasnt the answer and neither was Monty which Mullin admitted by replacing him with Don Nelson who is the 2nd All time winningest coach in the history of the NBA :D HATE NOW
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:54 am
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uptempo wrote:
O.G. broe wrote:Quit contradicting yourself, If it were up to you Musselman would be the head coach (READ 0 Titles 0 playoffs 0 playing experience) instead of Nellie :crazy:


Are you saying that Monty was a better coach than Musselman?
UUH No I am pointing out you are a hypocrite by trying to discredit Don Nelson and his credentials because he hasnt been to a championship but yet you have overly endorsed Mussleman who hasnt even been to the playoffs let alone a championship and he also fell out with multiple players on the TEAM which constituted the coaching change so there wouldnt be a revolt of the young TEAM that Mullin was and is still commited to developing :!: Muss wasnt the answer and neither was Monty which Mullin admitted by replacing him with Don Nelson who is the 2nd All time winningest coach in the history of the NBA :D HATE NOW


Once again, you fail to address the issue of Monty's tenure, which should have never happened. Do you believe that Monty was an upgrade over Musselman? Mullin obviously thought so.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:00 pm
Nellie is Nellie. He has what it takes, he proven he has it, so the warriors will be ok. The only problem i have, we have a log Jam at the center position and also at the small forward position. What will Nellie do about that?, and will he find the right cobination?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:07 pm
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O.G. broe wrote:Quit contradicting yourself, If it were up to you Musselman would be the head coach (READ 0 Titles 0 playoffs 0 playing experience) instead of Nellie :crazy:


Also, try addressing the issues concerning the team instead of engaging in your juvenile vitriol of attacking posters. Your act is getting stale and old. Most people on this board contribute with ideas and opinions; you just act as an apologist for marginal play, marginal talent, and a marginal front office.

Just because you got some more sand stuck in your clitoris doe not mean that we want to read your whine.
Dude you are such A hypoctite, all you do is bitch on this board while majority of the people now support and are excited about the direction the Warriors are heading, you are a downer who pulls theorys out of your Ass and you constantely slander :banghead: Like I said even your screen name is hypocritical..
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:34 pm
uptempo wrote:Once again, you fail to address the issue of Monty's tenure, which should have never happened. Do you believe that Monty was an upgrade over Musselman? Mullin obviously thought so.

And, once again, MULLIN ADMITTED HIS MISTAKE AND UNDID IT.

Mullin's methods always seem to work out. Mussleman became Nelson. Antawn Jamison became Baron Davis. Both are clear upgrades. Even if the path to them wasn't as direct as somebody like uptempo would like, that's where we are.

The Warriors will make the playoffs next year. Is that a bad thing, uptempo?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:18 pm
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uptempo wrote:Once again, you fail to address the issue of Monty's tenure, which should have never happened. Do you believe that Monty was an upgrade over Musselman? Mullin obviously thought so.

And, once again, MULLIN ADMITTED HIS MISTAKE AND UNDID IT.

Mullin's methods always seem to work out. Mussleman became Nelson. Antawn Jamison became Baron Davis. Both are clear upgrades. Even if the path to them wasn't as direct as somebody like uptempo would like, that's where we are.

The Warriors will make the playoffs next year. Is that a bad thing, uptempo?


Making the playoffs should be the first step towards winning a championship. Making the playoffs should not be the end goal.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:34 pm
Yes. And...?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:31 pm
five footer wrote:Nellie is Nellie. He has what it takes, he proven he has it, so the warriors will be ok. The only problem i have, we have a log Jam at the center position and also at the small forward position. What will Nellie do about that?, and will he find the right cobination?
Welcome to the board five footer 8)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:35 pm
five footer wrote:Nellie is Nellie. He has what it takes, he proven he has it, so the warriors will be ok. The only problem i have, we have a log Jam at the center position and also at the small forward position. What will Nellie do about that?, and will he find the right cobination?

I don't see a logjam.

We have several prospects for center... the best two being Biedrins and O'Bryant (who will compete for the starting job this year), along with the veteran defensive specialist Adonal Foyle. Having 2 young, potentially great centers is never a problem, in my book. :mrgreen:

And, as far as SF... I don't think we have a logjam (Mike Dunleavy is the only REAL small forward - Pietrus is a SG), but we don't have any talent there. :|

Mullin's next move should be for a SF, be it in the draft or in a trade.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:09 pm
I think we have enough young prospects, TRADE for a SF using draft pick (unless it's high and there's a SERIOUSLY good pick).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:10 pm
John Patrick wrote:I think we have enough young prospects, TRADE for a SF using draft pick (unless it's high and there's a SERIOUSLY good pick).

I think we should just start dishing out our 1st rounders. If we make the playoffs, it'll be a mid-rounder. Anything outta the lottery is usually garbage. Usually.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:19 pm
Yep, pretty much and we need to turn our backs to the draft and focus on the young players we have now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:08 pm
David wrote:The talent Nelson had, all played the same position. You could play two on the floor at a time but they played out of position to make it work. Plus, Antoine Walker is one of the biggest ball-hogs ever. He's not that good of a shooter. The other teams played off of him and kept Dirk from receiving the pass from Walker. Antoine didn't want to pass it anyway.

Antoine also proved to be a terrible free throw shooter. He almost had a mental thing about it. Antoine could drive the basket but if he got fouled, it did no good. He'd shoot 50% at best. Until the Mavs got him, I thought he was a pretty talented player.

There are more things than talent. It has to be the right talent, used in the right way. It was a miracle the Mavs won 52 games that year. The roster was an abortion.


uptempo wrote:1. Nelson put that team together, including acquiring the players.

Donnie put the team together at Cuban's direction. All the trades were made to bail Mark's @ss out of Raef's bad contract. It was Nelson who played the good soldier and made do and then took the blame because the team was less than it was before.
uptempo wrote:2. Nelson did not emphasis defense with his team.

They hired Del Harris to run the defense. He's still there, running AJ's defense.
uptempo wrote:3. AJ took that talent, emphasized playing defense (a necessity to advance in the playoffs), and got the team to the NBA Finals, something that Nelson has never done.

The Mavs now have centers, or weren't you paying attention? Statistically, the defense is virtually identical to the Nelson teams.
uptempo wrote:You should be appreciative of the job that AJ has done instead of pining for the return of Nelson. He, Nelson, is now our problem at Golden State.
I'm glad the Mavs have a good coach. They had a better coach. He's the solution at Golden State, not the problem.

uptempo wrote:Get over it; we don't need any Maverick trolls on the Golden State board.
I like going to the NBA finals. It's just that I think Nelson got cheated out of the opportunity to silence some very ignorant critics. Instead of calling names, perhaps you should check your facts.

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slotempo is on the ropes and Maverick David is pummeling him, BAM :boxing: ...... :sleepy2: Dam You got Knocked Da Fuk out :mrgreen:
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