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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:38 am

migya wrote:Fisher was not my favourite player, nowhere near it! He was however, a solid player that was not real good but effective enough that he made a positive difference for the team. He was a good veteran presence for all the young players on the team and so in the end he did an acceptable job!

I say Derek Fisher was a solid player and not a bad one!

Yeah, I do, too. A pretty stupid contract for a role player... I'd love him for 3 million less per year.

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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:29 am

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migya wrote:Fisher was not my favourite player, nowhere near it! He was however, a solid player that was not real good but effective enough that he made a positive difference for the team. He was a good veteran presence for all the young players on the team and so in the end he did an acceptable job!

I say Derek Fisher was a solid player and not a bad one!

Yeah, I do, too. A pretty stupid contract for a role player... I'd love him for 3 million less per year.

I reckon his contract was what other teams would have given him. Look at it - he was a starter on a 3 straight championships team, he has hit clutch shots and has almost ten years of experience; that will get you 6-8 million a year!

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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:32 am

migya wrote:I reckon his contract was what other teams would have given him. Look at it - he was a starter on a 3 straight championships team, he has hit clutch shots and has almost ten years of experience; that will get you 6-8 million a year!

But only the Warriors did... think about that. He was a free agent and picked the biggest offer. Why would anyone (at that time) sign with the Warriors if they weren't overpaying for him?.

He had a lot of suitors, just not at that price.

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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:20 am

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migya wrote:I reckon his contract was what other teams would have given him. Look at it - he was a starter on a 3 straight championships team, he has hit clutch shots and has almost ten years of experience; that will get you 6-8 million a year!

But only the Warriors did... think about that. He was a free agent and picked the biggest offer. Why would anyone (at that time) sign with the Warriors if they weren't overpaying for him?.

He had a lot of suitors, just not at that price.

I reckon he would have had a few teams after him

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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -4	Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:23 am migya wrote:I reckon he would have had a few teams after him Yeah, from what I remember, San Antonio and other two teams wanted him... but not at that price.
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JayPat JayPat's Profile All Star Posts: 3086 Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:51 pm Location: Redwood City, CA Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:40 pm Migya, the main problem with his contract is length. Last year, he earned his 6 million, but in a few years, that contract is going to produce nightmares.
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migya migya's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 21366 Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:50 am Location: Perth Poster Credit: 27	Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:59 pm John Patrick wrote:Migya, the main problem with his contract is length. Last year, he earned his 6 million, but in a few years, that contract is going to produce nightmares. Not our problem now migya make the ring fall on ya
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:34 am

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John Patrick wrote:Migya, the main problem with his contract is length. Last year, he earned his 6 million, but in a few years, that contract is going to produce nightmares.

Not our problem now

Yeah, it's lenght... it never goes over 7.5 million, but it has for more seasons in it. Fish will be 36 during his last season... and, honestly, I can't see him contributing at that age.

Oh, well, as migya said, not our problem now.

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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:31 pm

migya wrote:
TMC wrote:
migya wrote:Fisher was not my favourite player, nowhere near it! He was however, a solid player that was not real good but effective enough that he made a positive difference for the team. He was a good veteran presence for all the young players on the team and so in the end he did an acceptable job!

I say Derek Fisher was a solid player and not a bad one!

Yeah, I do, too. A pretty stupid contract for a role player... I'd love him for 3 million less per year.

I reckon his contract was what other teams would have given him. Look at it - he was a starter on a 3 straight championships team, he has hit clutch shots and has almost ten years of experience; that will get you 6-8 million a year!

This is exactly right. The Warriors outbid other teams for Derek Fisher. Think of the "Ben Wallace signing" this offseason... but on a much smaller scale (talent AND money).

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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -4	Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:35 pm #32 wrote:This is exactly right. The Warriors outbid other teams for Derek Fisher. Think of the "Ben Wallace signing" this offseason... but on a much smaller scale (talent AND money). In other words, dumb. Why overpay for someone that isn't that good to begin with? If you're going to overpay for someone, it better be a star.
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32 32's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 13512 Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:03 pm Location: Golden State Poster Credit: 51	Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:42 pm Not necessarily. We needed a PG and a veteran. Fisher was a great addition to the Warriors, at the time. We overpaid... according to what Fisher was worth at the time, but we didn't break the bank on him. It's not like we gave him a 4-year, $60 million deal. GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:45 pm

#32 wrote:Not necessarily. We needed a PG and a veteran. Fisher was a great addition to the Warriors, at the time. We overpaid... according to what Fisher was worth at the time, but we didn't break the bank on him. It's not like we gave him a 4-year, $60 million deal.

Yeah, but, according to my standards, the contract we gave him was dumb and the one you're proposing would be a "fire me" message by any GM. There's a difference.

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32 32's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 13512 Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:03 pm Location: Golden State Poster Credit: 51	Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:56 pm Overpaying is always dumb. That's why it's called 'over-paying'. We paid Fisher what we needed to in order to get him on our team. We needed a PG and a veteran; Fish provided both. It's not that crazy to me. In fact, I'd say he over-achieved last year from what we expected out of him. GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD
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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -4	Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:07 pm #32 wrote:Overpaying is always dumb. That's why it's called 'over-paying'. Not if it helps your team get to the next level. I think that the Bulls signing Big Ben (and the way they did it, with only a 4 year contract) is smart overpaying.
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xbay xbay's Profile Franchise Player Posts: 9202 Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:07 pm Location: Land of the Lacob. Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:49 pm Well the way you describe overpaying, all I can say is that he MUST perform up to the money's worth, improve the team, and take em deep in the playoffs. If he doesn't, then you just cost yourself some extra cash to reel in the fish from the FA. Don't hate yourself in the morning... sleep 'til noon.
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