TMC wrote:Nobody should be doing those kind of things with a family to take care of. You have a responsibility towards them. If you keep risking yourself... well, it's just dumb.

RIP to the guy... but it's his own fault.

I dunno, man... that's a little harsh. That's like saying a guy (with a family) who died riding a motorcycle every day was dumb because "he shouldn't have been doing it in the first place".

I get what you mean... but some risks (such as the one Irwin took, which had only 7 recorded fatalities in HISTORY) don't seem too great until after someone dies. For everyday folks, it can be something as small and simple as changing a broken electrical socket... or riding your bike at night... or walking down train tracks on the way home from school. These things are never as dangerous as one thinks until someone gets shocked to death, hit by a driver, or caught in between the tracks (respectively).

Steve Irwin's line of work was dangerous in the same way that a circus guy who swallows swords for a living has a dangerous job. To the untrained professional, it sounds outright insane. But to the Croc Hunter, dealing with those dangerous creatures was all in a day's work. He'd done it thousands of times before. It was routine for him.

Sure, maybe if a younger Steve Irwin had picked a different profession, he'd still be breathing today. But that doesn't make it any less tragic... or unexpected.

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Breezer79 and Migya may be in mourning but it's guys like me and Quazza who will feel the loss of Steve the most.

If you need to know a thing or 2 about Queensland then Steve Irwin didn't put it on the map... he just made it the most exciting and adventorous place to visit. Queensland has always been there... but Steve Gave it a identity as to the way an American would look at Texas and think about Cowboys and Oil Tycoons.

Steve is iconic in all of Australians tourism strategies for the last 10 years, it was his Occa style of danger = funs. if there was ever a person who could turn the witnessing of a kangaroo taking a **** and turn it into a fully blown out adrenilan rush then it was Steve.

It's a double edged saw for Queensland his death. Steve harnessed the ability to bring in extra Jumbo Jets on a daily basis just for his presence and yet he died the death of stingray ( How many people are gonna actually come and see the Reef or Outback now knowing that Sharks bite, Snakes have posion and Crocodiles roll )

Steve would save the day whether it was just on TV or not.

#32 wrote:Steve Irwin's line of work was dangerous in the same way that a circus guy who swallows swords for a living has a dangerous job. To the untrained professional, it sounds outright insane. But to the Croc Hunter, dealing with those dangerous creatures was all in a day's work. He'd done it thousands of times before. It was routine for him.

Routine kills when it comes to risk. It makes you pay less attention because you think you've done it so many times that nothing can go wrong.

And I still don't buy the motorcycle comparison. If you fall from the motorcycle, chances are that there won't be a crocodile waiting to bite you. There's a difference between having an accident kill you, and working with things that can kill you at any time. I respect that line of work to a certain extent, but I think that, with age, you have to be more responsible towards your family. It would be different if he were single, withouth any childs and so... If I were part of that family, I'd be terribly saddened first, but also angry at his death, just because it was unnecessary.

Anyway, it's a shame what happened. My feelings about the issue don't mean that I didn't admire the guy for what he did.

And yet he was never bitten by a crocodile, just barbed by a usually docile creature. Steve Irwin was born into this life. Its what his father did before him, so its not like he had a huge choice. He grew up in a life where he was surrounded by animals and adventure, and it became HIS life. His friends and manager have actually been quoted as saying that if he was going to buy it then it would be in the water and not on land as he didn't have as broad a knowledge in the water. Either way, snorkling (which is what he was doing at the time) is something that heaps of people do all the time, and it is not seen as a dangerous passtime. Sure the other things in his life (eg snakes and crocs) were dangerous, but thats not what killed him.

Cheers.

breezer_79 wrote:And yet he was never bitten by a crocodile, just barbed by a usually docile creature. Steve Irwin was born into this life. Its what his father did before him, so its not like he had a huge choice. He grew up in a life where he was surrounded by animals and adventure, and it became HIS life. His friends and manager have actually been quoted as saying that if he was going to buy it then it would be in the water and not on land as he didn't have as broad a knowledge in the water. Either way, snorkling (which is what he was doing at the time) is something that heaps of people do all the time, and it is not seen as a dangerous passtime. Sure the other things in his life (eg snakes and crocs) were dangerous, but thats not what killed him.

Yeah, the croc was only an example.

From what I've read, and correct me if I'm wrong, he died from a defensive move (due to him being too close) by a styngray that pierced him in the chest... Now I don't know much about styngrays and how often that happens, but every animal attacks when feeling threatened and doesn't have a way to hide. Snorkling didn't kill him, confidence did.

Not quite. Apparently he wasn't doing anything threatening at the time, and usually stingrays just swim away (apparently, but I'm no expert ) but what I had heard was that with Steve over the Stingray and the Cameraman standing off to the side, it may have felt boxed in....I wouldn't call that over confidence, just a lack of knowledge about that particular animal. All that said I get what you're saying as well, so I'll leave it here as we've both obviously got firm opinions on this issue.

Cheers mate, you sound like a good family man .

Yeah, well, I might have been a bit overboard with my opinion on the issue, and maybe his own family don't see it that way. But I just find stupid losing a father for that, even if there are a lot of awful and even more stupid things that can happen at any other position...

Better leave it here and talk about other, more productive, things... like the cheerleaders thread.

I like the way you think!

TMC wrote:Yeah, well, I might have been a bit overboard with my opinion on the issue, and maybe his own family don't see it that way. But I just find stupid losing a father for that, even if there are a lot of awful and even more stupid things that can happen at any other position...

Better leave it here and talk about other, more productive, things... like the cheerleaders thread.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=142002

HEY TMC least you ain't like this Germaine Greer lass!

She's copping it on the chin royal for speaking up about Steve playing with danger. The States Premier, all the politicans are saying how dare you talk that way about our australian icon.

I always thought of Steve Irwins production as corny porn ( The stuff found on the lower shelves of the shop ) not the top shelf stuff where it has enchanting opera soundtracks and big lights camera action glitz associated with the money thrown at the productin.

Steve had great midi sound filemats and he always put his heart,voice and smile into all camera work he did and all the work he did behind the camera. i got profound love for the man!

exploiting animals?, disrespecting them?, a self-deluded animal tormentor?



That b*tch is nuts.

"I find the whole Steve Irwin phenomenon (embarrassing) — and I'm not the only person who did,"

What a complete bitch.

Another reason why Steve's production reminded me of bottom shelf porn. how bout the haircuts. 1980 Miami Vice style....

BRING ON THE FLUFF BUNNIES ( Crikey, Those Bunnies are jumping like kangaroos )

No wonder that guy called her stupid haha