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migya migya's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 20885 Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:50 am Location: Perth Poster Credit: 21	Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:19 pm I just don't believe there have been many players that are the winners that Duncan is. He does what he ahs to and will most probably win another championship or two before he retires migya make the ring fall on ya
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xbay xbay's Profile Franchise Player Posts: 9202 Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:07 pm Location: Land of the Lacob. Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:01 pm MJ is genuwine icon of our time. Duncan is like MJ. not by the skills or game. but MJ was the best SG of his time. Duncan is the best PF of his time. it's simple as that folks.
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migya migya's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 20885 Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:50 am Location: Perth Poster Credit: 21	Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:45 pm Duncan doesn't have to get huge numbers anymore as he is enough of a player to make his teammates better and make them step up their game, A HUGE difference between him and Garnett migya make the ring fall on ya
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:26 am

rsxracer wrote:true. this is sorta like iverson/kobe. KG is better in statistics than Tim while Tim has a better all-around game than KG. well, maybe its not like AI/Kobe. but still, KG puts up the numbers, jus not the game Duncan can bring.

I agree with this post. The stats are too close (a bit towards KG), but I think Duncan is a better leader. Of course, that can't be measured through stats, so it's hard to prove. It's just an opinion.

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breezer_79 breezer_79's Profile Role Player Posts: 334 Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:21 am Location: Melbourne Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:54 pm Starting Five PG Tim Hardaway SG Michael Jordan SF Grant Hill PF Chris Webber C Hakeen Olajouwon Bench PG Gilbert Arenas SG Ray Allen SF Chris Mullin PF Shawn Kemp C David Robinson Extra Two: Scottie Pippen, Dirk Nowitzki
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Quazza Quazza's Profile All Star Posts: 3244 Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:29 am Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:50 am T Hardaway Jordan Mullin Duncan The Dream Sprewell(pre choke) Pippen Rodman Stockton Shawn Bradley(what can i say,loved watchin him get dunked on)
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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -3	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:00 pm Quazza wrote:Shawn Bradley(what can i say,loved watchin him get dunked on) Shawn Bradley?. You gotta be kidding me... even when he got dunked on, he added nothing to the game of basketball.
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breezer_79 breezer_79's Profile Role Player Posts: 334 Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:21 am Location: Melbourne Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:55 pm Oh no no no no, I think Shawn Bradley added a whole other level of something to this game.....HUMILIATION. I also loved seeing him get dunked on.....just the look on his face every time....Priceless.
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Quazza Quazza's Profile All Star Posts: 3244 Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:29 am Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:00 pm breezer_79 wrote:Oh no no no no, I think Shawn Bradley added a whole other level of something to this game.....HUMILIATION. I also loved seeing him get dunked on.....just the look on his face every time....Priceless. in a hint of sarcasm,yer that was my point....obviously lost on TMC
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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -3	Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:12 am No, I didn't miss it, but I don't think he can be labeled as a favourite. Not when your greatest joy came from seeing him dunked on. Being a favourite implies that you liked something about his game, not his lack of it. Maybe could be a favourite scrub... but there's another thread for those.
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Quazza Quazza's Profile All Star Posts: 3244 Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:29 am Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:04 am fair call i cant think of another centre where i really liked his game,so ill go with another forward Xavier McDaniels(sonics days) real keen to get his jersey while im over there
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:41 pm

TMC wrote:The stats are too close

the stats aren't close at all. KG has the edge in points, boards, assists, steals, blocks, FG%, FT%, 3p%, Turnovers, and Fouls. It's basically a wilt vs. russell argument. Do you want the guy who won rings (with an MVP and a couple of other allstars on his team) or the guy who played with a bunch of YMCA players but dominated the league thoroughly. If I'm starting a team, I'll pick KG every time because he can get you about 40 wins on his own. If duncan had sczerbiak as his best teammate how do you think he'd do?

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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:54 pm

This is one of those cases where stats don't tell the story. Garnett and Duncan are about even but Duncan does what he has to to win. Garnett has had decent teams with Wally and Brandon alongside him, Hudson (had a great first season there) with Wally, Billups (also had a great season there) and Wally and has also had solid role players like LaPhonso Ellis. Duncan has had better teams but not a whole lot better. David Robinson was not much of a superstar after Duncan's first season and Duncan had to make do with players like Avery Johnoson and Jaren Jackson, who were solid at best. Parker and Ginobili have risen now but they are still not great stars

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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:12 pm

migya wrote:This is one of those cases where stats don't tell the story. Garnett and Duncan are about even but Duncan does what he has to to win. Garnett has had decent teams with Wally and Brandon alongside him, Hudson (had a great first season there) with Wally, Billups (also had a great season there) and Wally and has also had solid role players like LaPhonso Ellis. Duncan has had better teams but not a whole lot better. David Robinson was not much of a superstar after Duncan's first season and Duncan had to make do with players like Avery Johnoson and Jaren Jackson, who were solid at best. Parker and Ginobili have risen now but they are still not great stars

Dude, you're putting guys like laphonso ellis and troy hudson at the same level as michael finley and bruce bowen. Look at the roster the spurs had this year.
G - Tony Parker/Nick the Quick
G - Manu Ginobili/Michael Finley
F - Bowen/Barry
F - Duncan/Horry
C - Mohamed/Nesterovic

Now how does that team not win a ring? I'll tell you how, because Dirk outplays TD. KG is dirk's cryptonite, he does similar things to dirk, but better. TD is not close to the leader KG is. Who gets the ball in the clutch? Not TD usually, it's bob, or even Manu. KG would have willed himself to win those clutch games because he has more desire and guts than anybody in this league save maybe AI and Kobe. He just has never had his backup five look like a starting five.

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