Center Situation
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I think most people would like to see Biedrins start (over Foyle) just to see what he can do now. However, the bigger question is who do you think Monty would start? Would he want to shake things up, knowing he may be on a short leash?
well monty has been diverse about that postion this past season. he's gone with foyle and diogu. to me, putting diogu there was stupid cuz he's an undersized PF. sure, he has a wing span of a 7 footer, but cmon now, he was only a rookie. an undersized rookie shouldnt focus on two different postions. though, monty was stupid for benching ike after the miami game. i guess he gave up on him after guarding shaq, oh is he faithful or what?
migya wrote:John Patrick wrote:In my opinion we need to trade away two of our centers and Murph for one good, starting center.
Like who? That is far easier said than done and there are not too many good Centers today
Agreed, and I see our deficiencies at SF as being far more glaring. A team named the Bulls did decently in the 90s with mediocre centers...Biedrins and POB may well give us decent production at center so that takes Foyle off the table as a liability, but we are still currently left with dung, arguably the worst starting SF in the league...
Yeah, but the Bulls had Jordan, Pippen, and a low post threat (Rodman), and well shooting supporting role players (Kerr, Harper, Kukoc).
I do agree that our deficiency at SF is great, but if we see an opening for a good starting center, we should take it.
I do agree that our deficiency at SF is great, but if we see an opening for a good starting center, we should take it.
O.G pawnograffiti wrote:It's not about who starts but rather finishes!!!
If Adonal comes in and does his dirtywork down low, The Reason Adonal is starting is because you got to anticipate the distributions of fouls. Biedrins and Pat'OB will be thrown in the deepend and pickup real early.
Biedrins and Pat'OB should continue to get better and when they do, when they finish there growth spirts they will be contributing better towards the team.
Pawno brings up something I remember from Montys days at stanford. They beat TDs Wake forest team in the NCAA tourney by having 3 centers frustrate him. Two of which were the collins brothers. They would foul out and were consistently overmatched by TD, but they kept him from getting going and did just enough to eek out a win that round. That was the year they made it to the Final Four i think.
coltraning wrote:migya wrote:John Patrick wrote:In my opinion we need to trade away two of our centers and Murph for one good, starting center.
Like who? That is far easier said than done and there are not too many good Centers today
Agreed, and I see our deficiencies at SF as being far more glaring. A team named the Bulls did decently in the 90s with mediocre centers...Biedrins and POB may well give us decent production at center so that takes Foyle off the table as a liability, but we are still currently left with dung, arguably the worst starting SF in the league...
yea, i mean the best center who's young and worth it is a college man who hasnt played a single college game yet. greg oden. but the only way to get him is to get the first pick or at least top 2-3. C and SF should be the main priorities of this team cuz this is what the warriors truely lack the most.
well if we dont get greg oden then i sure hope we get kevin durant. a better upgrade over dunleavy. but hey, why am i talking about draft night 2007 already? the season hasnt started up yet, but then again, everyone is sayin we have no chance at the most gettin 4th place with the competition above us. (LAL, LAC, SAC, PHO)
coltraning wrote:migya wrote:John Patrick wrote:In my opinion we need to trade away two of our centers and Murph for one good, starting center.
Like who? That is far easier said than done and there are not too many good Centers today
Agreed, and I see our deficiencies at SF as being far more glaring. A team named the Bulls did decently in the 90s with mediocre centers...Biedrins and POB may well give us decent production at center so that takes Foyle off the table as a liability, but we are still currently left with dung, arguably the worst starting SF in the league...
The Warriors have to have a standard in terms of improvement for their players. If there are good trainers and coaching staff, such as Buck williams who has been hired, then players like Biedrins should improve dramatically season to season. I would give him an, and the rest, a standard that they have to meet or they are tradeable or not going to be resigned. Players need to get a kick in the arse sometimes because players that have shown potential but have not really improved need to train with the right people and improvement is a given.
O'bryant and Biedrins have potential but they need to show improvement every season to a substantial level. Biedrins should be able to average 11pts, 8rbs and 2blks as a starter this season or next season at worst. Same for O'bryant if he starts
migya wrote:O'bryant and Biedrins have potential but they need to show improvement every season to a substantial level. Biedrins should be able to average 11pts, 8rbs and 2blks as a starter this season or next season at worst. Same for O'bryant if he starts
I'd be ecstatic with those numbers... but I'm with coltraining. We'd be better off going for a decent SF. We have enough to get by at other positions.
Foyle will start this up and coming season.
