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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:47 am

#32 wrote:18-year old kids suck up experience like a sponge. Hell, most of the time you can see flashes during their first season (Monta, Gerald Green, Kobe, ect). But Biedrins (in 2 seasons) has jogged in place. He hasn't improved at all.

Those are 18-year old american kids that are in their own culture and don't need to adapt to it, and to other style of bball, completely different from the one they've been playing. Biedrins (and other players in his situation) will take a bit more time to develop.

Of course, I can be wrong and he may end up sucking badly, but I think he's going (more or less) according to the schedule.

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:44 pm

TMC wrote:Those are 18-year old american kids that are in their own culture and don't need to adapt to it, and to other style of bball, completely different from the one they've been playing. Biedrins (and other players in his situation) will take a bit more time to develop.

Of course, I can be wrong and he may end up sucking badly, but I think he's going (more or less) according to the schedule.

It didn't take Dirk, Nash, Parker, Yao, or Ginobli three years to develop...

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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -3	Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:28 pm Those players don't come from eastern europe. They have a lot more things in common with american culture. It's not the same "shock". This doesn't apply to Yao, but Yao was the #1 overall pick and a one-of-a-kind talent.
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32 32's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 12978 Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:03 pm Location: Golden State Poster Credit: 41	Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:29 pm If we allow Andris Biedrins a five-year span to "develop", we'll ultimately end up with another Adonal Foyle on our hands. He doesn't deserve a huge contract... and if he wants one, we should let him walk. GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:28 pm

#32 wrote:If we allow Andris Biedrins a five-year span to "develop", we'll ultimately end up with another Adonal Foyle on our hands. He doesn't deserve a huge contract... and if he wants one, we should let him walk.

watching him in interviews he seems pretty humble i dont think he's gonna try to rip off the Warriors he seems pretty grateful for the opportunity to play

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migya migya's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 20888 Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:50 am Location: Perth Poster Credit: 21	Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:52 pm Biedrins shouldn't be offered a huge contract. Anything more than 4 million a year for 5 years is too much for him, unless he gets better real quick migya make the ring fall on ya
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:31 pm

tallboy12321 wrote:watching him in interviews he seems pretty humble i dont think he's gonna try to rip off the Warriors he seems pretty grateful for the opportunity to play

I'm not worried about him; I'm worried about his blood-sucking agent. Those people are money-grubbing, souless bastards. The only thing their concerned about is getting their clients as much cash as possible. Biedrins could be Andy Griffith, for all I know, but his agent is another story. They're leeches, they're vampires, and they have no mercy.

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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:45 am

#32 wrote:
tallboy12321 wrote:watching him in interviews he seems pretty humble i dont think he's gonna try to rip off the Warriors he seems pretty grateful for the opportunity to play

I'm not worried about him; I'm worried about his blood-sucking agent. Those people are money-grubbing, souless bastards. The only thing their concerned about is getting their clients as much cash as possible.

That's because they get 5% and the more the better. Imagine if you were an agent - If you could get a contract for your player of 10 million a season, you get 500,000 dollars a year! That is great money

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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:29 am

#32 wrote:If we allow Andris Biedrins a five-year span to "develop", we'll ultimately end up with another Adonal Foyle on our hands. He doesn't deserve a huge contract... and if he wants one, we should let him walk.

I never said that he deserves a big contract, just that he's developing the way I expected. I think he still has two years on his contract (the second one a team option), so we shouldn't worry til next offseason.

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32 32's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 12978 Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:03 pm Location: Golden State Poster Credit: 41	Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:18 pm I'm not worried... I just want him off the books if Adonal's massive contract is still here. If Adonal's contract expires (I'm not sure when it does, to be honest) before Biedrins does, than we'll talk about giving him backup-level money. GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD
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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -3	Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:36 pm Adonal's contract is guaranteed til the 2008/09 season, with a team option (at a whopping $10.5 million, in case he becomes an all star suddenly) for the 2009/2010 season.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:43 pm

TMC wrote:Adonal's contract is guaranteed til the 2008/09 season, with a team option (at a whopping $10.5 million, in case he becomes an all star suddenly) for the 2009/2010 season.

I think that is slated to happen about the same time as they find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

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TMC TMC's Profile Hall of Famer Posts: 18461 Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:48 am Location: Somewhere in this site... Poster Credit: -3	Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:49 pm coltraning wrote: TMC wrote:Adonal's contract is guaranteed til the 2008/09 season, with a team option (at a whopping $10.5 million, in case he becomes an all star suddenly) for the 2009/2010 season. I think that is slated to happen about the same time as they find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
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