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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:55 pm
If Baron ends up traded which is looking more probable with what he said about not wanting to play with Monty as coach, I reckon a very good PG must be given in return!

Possible trades:

Baron to Nuggets for Andre Miller and Najera - Miller is a great PG who specialises in distributing and though he doesn't have a three point shot, he would fit in well with JRich and Diogu, who need the ball in their hands. Najera is just to make contracts work.


Baron Davis for Steve Francis is another - Francis not being injured anywhere near as much as Baron is the big plus. He is still a very good player and doesn't seem to have a problem with his coaches but with Monty that may change. Francic could fit well and play the role that Baron does.


Baron for Brevin Knight straight up or Knight and a Bobctas future 1st pick - Don't know whether Bobcats would want Baron, with Felton their future PG. Bobcats are under the salary cap and should be able to take the contract difference.


Another option is to trade Baron for a SF, maybe Peja or even Granger if Bird would do that. With the #9 pick, if Foye is available, then Mullin could try him and see if he can be starting PG. Don't think Fisher has ever been starting PG material and Monta just might not be ready yet
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:16 am
I don't want Francis, and Baron has a lot more value than Brevin Knight. That would be only a salary dump.

I've always liked Miller, and he could be a good fit, but he's a worse player than Baron. Maybe if Denver were willing to add Julius Hodge and a pick...

Another possible trade, as we're just speculating, is trading Baron to Toronto for the #1 pick. Toronto is deperate for a pg, and are entertaining offers for the pick. Also, they have the cap room to make it work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:01 am
Baron's trade value now is LOW! He is injuryprone, shoots too many threes and just made it clear that he is a tough player to coach and has a bad attitude!

Andre Miller is my first option because he shows professionalism and gets the job done. Brevin Knight is another great distributor but less of a scorer but he does play defense quite well which is a real asset. Francis might be real good again and talentwise he is on par with Baron
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:54 am
Andre Miller is one of my favorite players. He plays lockdown defense, distributes the ball well and always plays with a smile on his face. Never afraid to take the charge or dive out of bounds and gives his all every game. I think Miller would not only be a good player to have, but also a good coach down the road.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:10 am
i too would go for andre first.

stevie franchise is good when he decides to work hard and try. if he were like he was in houston i might take a chance on him.

no way you trade baron for knight straight up.

pacers dont want baron, they already got an injured pg in tinsley. and no way they give up granger or peja.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:52 am
I wonder whether the Nugs would want Baron, with Carmello being a problem sometimes adding Baron might make the team blow up in a bad way.

Be great to have Andre Miller but he has no outside shot which is a real weakness
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:19 am
I don't like any of the above trade ideas to get rid of Baron, regardless of how big his mouth is. I'd rather try to solve his problems with Montgomery... or just fire the dumb bastard.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:56 pm
#32 wrote:I don't like any of the above trade ideas to get rid of Baron, regardless of how big his mouth is. I'd rather try to solve his problems with Montgomery... or just fire the dumb bastard.


Exactly. Baron is the kind of special talent that is hard to find... we'd be much better off finding a better coaching situation rather than trading our most talented player away. Larry Brown to GS please... he's had to deal with some thick headed people (AI) in his past and has a defensive philosophy... we would be well off with him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:21 am
Exactly. Baron is the kind of special talent that is hard to find... we'd be much better off finding a better coaching situation rather than trading our most talented player away. Larry Brown to GS please... he's had to deal with some thick headed people (AI) in his past and has a defensive philosophy... we would be well off with him.


If Larry were our coach, Baron wouldn't make it to christmas in this team... Larry and Iverson got along well because Iverson is all about winning, no matter how banged up he is. The complete opposite of Baron.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:29 am
Trading Baron is a must because he has shown a lack for really wanting to make the team be a winner and he has not been around enough (and may always be injuryprone) for the team to benefit from having him
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:08 pm
That has yet to be seen. We should give him another season before deeming him a lost cause. So far, he's proven that he helps us in a MAJOR way (remember our 12-6 start...?) when he's in the game.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:07 pm
i agree with 32. give baron another year to prove himself. ill be happy if he doesnt miss more than 10 games.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:08 pm
Now we are trading Baron? Honestly, I would wait and see what moves Mullin makes regarding Power forwards and coaches this summer. I know Baron is a lightning rod, but he was averaging 9 dimes a game prior to his injury, which put him 2nd to Nash in a league woefully short in PGs. If you look at it, Baron didn't get along with Byron Scott, putting him in the same category as Jason Kidd, didn't get along with Tim Floyd who is another bust as a coach, and evidently didn't dig Montgomery, a position shared by virtually everyone not named thinking warriors on this board. So often players get labeled "attitude" problems, the most glaring example being Rasheed, who only was the missing puzle in Detroit winning it all. I am leery of "attitude" labels, especially since they seem to almost be exclusively applied to Black athletes by White commentators...my simple question: who plays point if you trade Baron? Sure, if you could Andre Miller or even Brandon Roy, but that will not happen.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:09 pm
Anonymous wrote:Now we are trading Baron? Honestly, I would wait and see what moves Mullin makes regarding Power forwards and coaches this summer. I know Baron is a lightning rod, but he was averaging 9 dimes a game prior to his injury, which put him 2nd to Nash in a league woefully short in PGs. If you look at it, Baron didn't get along with Byron Scott, putting him in the same category as Jason Kidd, didn't get along with Tim Floyd who is another bust as a coach, and evidently didn't dig Montgomery, a position shared by virtually everyone not named thinking warriors on this board. So often players get labeled "attitude" problems, the most glaring example being Rasheed, who only was the missing puzzle piece in Detroit winning it all. I am leery of "attitude" labels, especially since they seem to almost be exclusively applied to Black athletes by White commentators...my simple question: who plays point if you trade Baron? Sure, if you could Andre Miller or even Brandon Roy, but that will not happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:31 pm
I dunno if I buy that racism pitch about "black athletes and white commentators". Some attitude problems are pretty justified. Rasheed led the league in technicals for years on end. Nick Van Exel was a little girl PMSing for Del Harris. Robert Horry tossed a towel in Danny Ainge's face. And the list goes on and on. I wouldn't say it's an attitude problem so much as certain people not being able to get along.

In that sense, Baron doesn't really have an "attitude problem". He has a beef with Montgomery. And then it just comes down to who would we rather lose...
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