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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:36 am
The best option for Charlotte would be to draft a SG this year and Oden the next one. That way, they would have a good starting five and also a ton of money for a couple of free agents.

Of course, drafting Oden seems to be the best option for half the NBA.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:37 am
migya wrote:Okafor is 6ft 11in! that is big enough for Center.

No, he's 6'10"... which is pushing it. Adonal Foyle and Alonzo Mourning pulled it off because they had a wide-bodied build. Okafor's got the same build, but you can't count on the fact that a natural PF can make the center conversion. Plus, he hasn't shown that he's able to block 2 shots a game consistently enough in the NBA (don't get me wrong; he's a swat machine... but he needs consistency). Either way, as a default, it's best to play Okafor at the 4.

migya wrote:He will have to play Center because May will be better than Prezec very soon and he probably is already. They seem to have a good set of players defensively which will bode well

May came into the league better than Brezec, but neither May or Okafor are centers, so there's going to be a need for Brezec for quite a while. Also, take into account that Sean May is only 6'9" (Dunleavy's height). That leaves them undersized at power-forward AND center, as opposed to starting Brezec & Okafor (which gives them a tall lineup). May is a good draft pick... but, with Okafor injured for (basically) the entire year, he had several chances to shine and never really proved that he's capable of carrying the ball in a starting role. He averaged just over 4 boards in 17 minutes a game. If they are to play an undersized lineup, they at least need a player who can rebound well (and, at the moment, May's best game of the season gave him only 10). Brezec is more necessary than you give him credit for.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:13 pm
Prezec is a filler for the short term, nothing more. May averaged 4 rebounds in 17 minutes you say, that's 8 per 38 minutes, starters minutes. That is goos rebounding! Okafor is better than most Centers in the nba and he could handle that very well, with May doing a more than decent job at PF. The thing is that the Bobcats are better off getting another two or three lottery picks over the next two or three years to really be set to be a playoff team for a few years. With that, maybe having May off the bench and using lesser players like Prezec for a couple more seasons is the way to go.

The Bobcats have got a good foundation right now and they are certainly one of the teams that seem headed in the right direction
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:21 pm
Sean May is a better player than Brezec... but that doesn't mean the Bobcats should shift the lineup around just to accomodate that! Derek Fisher is better than Mike Dunleavy... but starting Fish at shooting guard and moving JRich to the forward spot leaves the Warriors undersized... hence, its not a starting lineup. Size counts in the NBA... and Brezec makes the Bobcats physically formidable for just about any team.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:15 pm
Can't compare moving a 6ft 1in PG to SG (Fisher) to having a 6FT 9in PF (average height anyway) in May
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:49 pm
that'd be nice but i dont think felton should be coming off the bench if baron came to charlotte.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:39 pm
migya wrote:Can't compare moving a 6ft 1in PG to SG (Fisher) to having a 6FT 9in PF (average height anyway) in May

Of course you can. The average SG height is 6'6". The average center height is 7'0". That means Fisher gives up 5 inches, while May would give up 3. Seeing as size matters a lot more if you're playing a bigger position (look at Dwight Howard and Shaquille O'Neal... basically the same player, but Shaq's 3 inches taller), I'd say that's completely comparable.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:49 pm
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migya wrote:Can't compare moving a 6ft 1in PG to SG (Fisher) to having a 6FT 9in PF (average height anyway) in May

Of course you can. The average SG height is 6'6". The average center height is 7'0". That means Fisher gives up 5 inches, while May would give up 3. Seeing as size matters a lot more if you're playing a bigger position (look at Dwight Howard and Shaquille O'Neal... basically the same player, but Shaq's 3 inches taller), I'd say that's completely comparable.



But Sean May is to be starting PF!!!! Average height there is about 6'9'! Okafor could play Center well like Magloire and Curry who are both under 7ft tall. I used Fisher as the example because he is way under 6'4', 6'5' like most SGs are
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:38 pm
The average power forward is about 6'10"
The average center is 7'

Sean May is 6'9" and Emeka Okafor is 6'10". Combined, they give up a total of 3 inches to the opposing frontline of the average team. Against a team like Dallas (who starts Nowitski and Diop), they'd be giving up a combined 5 inches! The same can be said for a game against Minnesoda (with Garnett and Blount). Combined, a lineup featuring May & Okafor gives up almost half a foot. That's a lot of size to be giving up in an NBA game!

The smarter thing to do would be to play Okafor at his natural PF postition (where he excells) and allow May to develop into a good backup 4. Playing Okafor out of position might be pulled off against a team like Golden State, but not against Miami, San Antonio, or Detroit! Prezec is more than capable of starting in the NBA. Leaving Okafor at power forward means he can use his post-up game to overwhelm other 4's. Playing your franchise player out of position just to accompany a decent backup PF sounds ludicrous.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:47 am
#32 wrote:The average power forward is about 6'10"
The average center is 7'

Sean May is 6'9" and Emeka Okafor is 6'10". Combined, they give up a total of 3 inches to the opposing frontline of the average team. Against a team like Dallas (who starts Nowitski and Diop), they'd be giving up a combined 5 inches! The same can be said for a game against Minnesoda (with Garnett and Blount). Combined, a lineup featuring May & Okafor gives up almost half a foot. That's a lot of size to be giving up in an NBA game!

The smarter thing to do would be to play Okafor at his natural PF postition (where he excells) and allow May to develop into a good backup 4. Playing Okafor out of position might be pulled off against a team like Golden State, but not against Miami, San Antonio, or Detroit! Prezec is more than capable of starting in the NBA. Leaving Okafor at power forward means he can use his post-up game to overwhelm other 4's. Playing your franchise player out of position just to accompany a decent backup PF sounds ludicrous.



Okafor and May would be a great C, PF and not undersized much either. There have been plenty of teams with PFs and Cs at that height and it has worked alright. The Pistons are one example
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:42 pm
Ben Wallace is the exception to every rule in basketball. He's like the modern version of Charles Barkley.

The bottom line is that if you're going to be playing a 6'10" center, the worst thing you can do would be to play a 6'9" midgit power forward next to him. It works as a mid-game change-up because it's only excecuted every so often (and works in small doses). Starting a frontline that gives up a combined 5 inches to most teams in the league is problematic.
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