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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:54 am
migya wrote:PG is one of the easiest positions to fill so that will be no problem!


Yeah, but at the same time is one of the hardest to fill WELL.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:42 am
Right. The point remains. Our starting lineup gets jacked up on talent steroids, but our bench players become pitiful. What'll happen when BD, JRich, or KG get injured, by the way...? Both Baron and Jason have taken time out during this year to heal... and Garnett's injury risk (with age) increases every year. That's the problem with this trade: you're exchanging three talented players for one. Yes, it's a fact that KG is the most talented of the bunch (probably twice as good as the next closest... which would be Murphy), but he's only one man. And when that "one man" goes down with an injury for 30 games, what'll happen...?

Murphy goes down for 30 games, we can cover his ass with other players. If KG went down, it'd be as if we lost Fisher, Murphy, and Dunleavy for 30 games ALL AT ONCE this year...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:31 pm
But thats a big IF he gets injured
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:01 pm
It's an even bigger "if" for him to be traded...

And a damn near impossible "if" for him to be kept in the Western Conference if said trade does, in fact, take place.
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#32 wrote:Murphy goes down for 30 games, we can cover his ass with other players. If KG went down, it'd be as if we lost Fisher, Murphy, and Dunleavy for 30 games ALL AT ONCE this year...


And that's bad why? :mrgreen:

No, really. KG's been really durable his whole career. I don't see a reason for him to slow down in the near future. Although you never know... But, if Murph goes down, we'd have Diogu. If KG goes down, we'd also have Diogu. Where's the problem?

Usually, the winner in most trades is the team that gets the best player, not the one that gets more players.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:22 pm
TMC wrote:No, really. KG's been really durable his whole career. I don't see a reason for him to slow down in the near future. Although you never know... But, if Murph goes down, we'd have Diogu. If KG goes down, we'd also have Diogu. Where's the problem?

The problem is that we traded two key role players (namely, Fisher) away in the deal, so if KG goes down, who picks up the slack? Usually, if Murphy goes down during the year, Fisher or Dunleavy are the ones who pick up the slack (even though Diogu gets more minutes). It's not who replaces the players' minutes; it's who replaces their production. Right now, our lineup's main guns go in this order: Richardson, Davis, Murphy, Fisher, Dunleavy. If Murphy goes down, we still have our 4th option (Fisher) to pick it up. however, if we trade our 3, 4, and 5th options away, if KG or one of our backcourt members go down, we have to rely on our 6th or 7th current options to make due. That's where the problem lies. We lose reliablility in Fisher and Murphy, along with Dunleavy's monthly riot in exchange for one player (albiet, the best player in the league, possibly... but still, he's only one man).

TMC wrote:Usually, the winner in most trades is the team that gets the best player, not the one that gets more players.

I completely agree. But that only applies if the trade keeps most of the system intact. When McGrady was traded to Houston, it was for Francis and Mobley. That's fine. They still had Yao. They still had David Wesley and Bob Sura. They were good. Therefore, McGrady could come in and take Francis' place in the system. If we tried the above trade with KG, we'd have 3 stars and a roster full of unproven role players that are (for the most part) hot-or-cold and therefore unreliable. Diogu, Ellis, Biedrins, and Pietrus all need to get a lot more consistent before I'm comfortable trading away their predecesors.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:06 am
My point is that it doesn't matter so much if we lose several role players. We'd be taking a risk, but well worth it. Role players alone won't bring you anywhere.

If we make that trade and KG goes down, the season is over. So what?, I'd be willing to take that risk and be a contender (and we'd be one, as we'd still have J-Rich and Baron to go with KG) than being a borderline playoff wannabe.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:36 am
It's not just an injury risk; what happens when the Big 3 is off the floor...? It's a roster destroyer. A KG trade for Murphy, Dunleavy, and Fisher completely wipes out our depth.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:36 pm
Call me a hypocrite but if that is all it take's to get KG.....Done Deal :!: Probability = to Tupac being still alive...
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O.G. broe wrote:Call me a hypocrite but if that is all it take's to get KG.....Done Deal :!: Probability = to Tupac being still alive...

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Probability is more likely to Elvis still being alive...
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