migya wrote:Murphy is a step down from Garnett but WHO ISN'T!!!!!!
Murphy is a contibutor and that is more than what most players in the TWolves do right now.
But as the best player in the trade (from Golden State's side), Murphy doesn't make this deal attractive if you're Minnesoda. He's exactly what you pointed out: a contributer. He'll deliver solid numbers in points and categories, but not much else. I guarentee you that nobody would be thrilled (least of all the Timberwolves, with a player like KG) at the idea of trading their franchise player of somebody's third option. Murphy would not doubt have to be included in a Garnett trade... but not as the main attraction.
migya wrote:Dunleavy is not one of my favourites (obviously) but the man has got "potential"
Ehhh. After 4 years in the league, claiming that a player has "potential" doesn't work. The T-Wolves (like the rest of the league) see Dunleavy as an inconsistent, unreliable player. Besides, his contract makes him trade poison. The ability to play awkwardly out of position for 10 minutes a night wont make Minnesoda forget all those strikes on him. He doesn't further a trade for KG at all.
migya wrote:Fisher is not a young man but he is not that old and he has shown lately that he can perform well enough to be a major player at times. The TWolves inconsistent (Jaric) and injury prone (Hudson) PGs that just don't seem like ever being much at all. Marcus Banks shows promise but he has not been that consistent so far either and could benefit form getting some shooting instructions from Fisher.
Marcus Banks is their choice for the future at the moment, and it's not hard to see why. Ever since the trade from Boston (giving him more floor time), Banks has played spectacularly (averaging 12 and 5, with a steal per night). He's a defensive lock-out with the ability to score in bunches and distributes the ball well. They would most likely start Banks instead of Fisher. This stacks their lineup with 4 PGs who all want playing time (Banks, Jaric, Fisher, and Hudson). I doubt another point guard is very attractive to a team that already has 3 decent ones.
migya wrote:In all - The TWolves would be getting starters for their team (much like the Lakers did when they traded Shaq) and players that are all liked by some GMs out there and so they can be used to trade for other players when the opportunity arises.
Certainly not Dunleavy; I doubt any GM would take him from the Warriors (much less the Timberwolves, where he'd get a second chance to shine). The only real value in the trade that may attract other GMs is Murphy. Fisher is a toss-up and Dunleavy's a no-go. Better valued as expirers (which wont happen anytime soon).
migya wrote:Diogu can be starting PF and Garnett can play either SF (which he has shown always that he has the skills to play defensively and cause MAJOR matchup problems defensively or he can play Center, which many think he can't do but that is absurd, since Duncan does it well and KG is tall enough and more than skilled enough).
Like I said, Garnett will not go back to playing small forward full time. He's gained 2 inches since the last time he played that position (not to mention aged 10 years). I agree, on a mismatch for the defense he's capable of handling a small forward or a center... but he won't do it the entire game. If you want to trade for Garnett, you need to realize that Diogu will be on his way out sooner than later. KG loves to float out near the midrange too much to be a center... and he's not physically capable of playing small forward full-time anymore (one full game of running around on the perimeter after Richard Jefferson or Corey Maggette would prove it). It's a nice thought as far as post options for the offense, but Garnett's best defense is played down on the block. Forcing him to the perimeter on defense would be moronic and a hillarious waste of his abilities.
migya wrote:Like I said above, KG plays SF well and has guarded the likes of TMac to the likes of Duncan before and done it well.
See above. A mismatch is not the same as a full game. KG can handle TMac for a couple plays a night, but would fail ultimately in anything more than a once in a while situation. Besides, a taller SF like McGrady isn't the kind of player you need to worry about. Someone like LeBron James or Ron Artest is what would really give Garnett trouble (and I doubt he could keep up with them the entire game). As for Duncan, I agree, he could probably make an awkward transition to center for a short while... but it wouldn't last. Garnett is a PF (and what's more, he's a star... so he no longer needs to attempt these strange adjustments at different positions. He has enough box office respect to play where he wants to play... which, ultimately, is where he plays the best). End of story.
migya wrote:Other than that, many quality players would want to come to the Warriors if they get KG and so a SF can be easily obtained if needed.
Doubtful. If that were true, than why doesn't Minnesoda have all-star players leaping at a shot to play with KG? Their squad with Spree and Cassell was good enough to lure a few free agents their way... and that didn't work. The key is the salary cap (and KG would max ours out).
As far as the PG position, Baron is still there until he gets traded (if ever) and Monta can backup both guard spots and this Will Bynum guy seems adequate for now also.
avis is injury prone, Monta Ellis plays best as SG (which is probably where he'll eventually end up), and Bynum won't be resigned next year. We'll be left without a backup.
migya wrote:Many PGs would want to come to the Warriors if they get KG, as would many players of all positions.
You can't keep falling back on this imaginary cavalry of players leaping onto the Warriors simply because of Garnett. Look at the Nets with Carter and Kidd. Look at the Wizards with Jamison and Arenas. Look at the 76ers with Webber and Iverson. Just because a team carries two franchise players doesn't mean all of their needed players begin to fall out of the sky. Garnett would suck up maximum cap space (like BD already is) and nobody decent is going to take a minimum salary.
The bottom line is that a KG trade (for the players you listed) opens more holes than is plugs. Bad idea.