migya wrote:Murphy is a step down from Garnett but WHO ISN'T!!!!!!
Murphy is a contibutor and that is more than what most players in the TWolves do right now.
But as the best player in the trade (from Golden State's side), Murphy doesn't make this deal attractive if you're Minnesoda. He's exactly what you pointed out: a contributer. He'll deliver solid numbers in points and categories, but not much else. I guarentee you that nobody would be thrilled (least of all the Timberwolves, with a player like KG) at the idea of trading their franchise player of somebody's third option. Murphy would not doubt have to be included in a Garnett trade... but not as the main attraction.
You are partly right that Murphy may not be seen as a major player by McHale but he could easily be, as McHale likes rebounders and doesn't mind good shooters. Either way, Murphy is more than solid and young, which is something a team that will probably have no choice but to rebuild (since their current players, other than KG and Davis) are not much good.
migya wrote:Dunleavy is not one of my favourites (obviously) but the man has got "potential"
#32 wrote:Ehhh. After 4 years in the league, claiming that a player has "potential" doesn't work. The T-Wolves (like the rest of the league) see Dunleavy as an inconsistent, unreliable player. Besides, his contract makes him trade poison. The ability to play awkwardly out of position for 10 minutes a night wont make Minnesoda forget all those strikes on him. He doesn't further a trade for KG at all.
I agree with ya that dun is a bust right now but his "potential" with the height and fairly versatile skills is attractive to many GMs who always think "what if" and many do take chances on players that have not performed like expected. Again, he is probably better than most of the SF players they have.
migya wrote:Fisher is not a young man but he is not that old and he has shown lately that he can perform well enough to be a major player at times. The TWolves inconsistent (Jaric) and injury prone (Hudson) PGs that just don't seem like ever being much at all. Marcus Banks shows promise but he has not been that consistent so far either and could benefit form getting some shooting instructions from Fisher.
#32 wrote:Marcus Banks is their choice for the future at the moment, and it's not hard to see why. Ever since the trade from Boston (giving him more floor time), Banks has played spectacularly (averaging 12 and 5, with a steal per night). He's a defensive lock-out with the ability to score in bunches and distributes the ball well. They would most likely start Banks instead of Fisher. This stacks their lineup with 4 PGs who all want playing time (Banks, Jaric, Fisher, and Hudson). I doubt another point guard is very attractive to a team that already has 3 decent ones.
Banks has been inconsistent! That is not a very good PG and McHale has a major issue to resolve at PG since none of the current ones have been any sort of an answer! Fisher is enticing to alot of GMs because of his good shooting ability and his experiece. McHale would be looking for that rather than what he has at PG at the moment.
The three players I have mentioned - Murphy, dun and Fisher are all attractive to GMs for one reason or another, even though many of us realise that they are not what the warriros need. GMs look for talent and a player that fits in and these three would be convincing to alot of GMs.
migya wrote:Like I said above, KG plays SF well and has guarded the likes of TMac to the likes of Duncan before and done it well.
See above. A mismatch is not the same as a full game. KG can handle TMac for a couple plays a night, but would fail ultimately in anything more than a once in a while situation. Besides, a taller SF like McGrady isn't the kind of player you need to worry about. Someone like LeBron James or Ron Artest is what would really give Garnett trouble (and I doubt he could keep up with them the entire game). As for Duncan, I agree, he could probably make an awkward transition to center for a short while... but it wouldn't last. Garnett is a PF (and what's more, he's a star... so he no longer needs to attempt these strange adjustments at different positions. He has enough box office respect to play where he wants to play... which, ultimately, is where he plays the best). End of story.[/quote]
Garnett wants to win a championship! He will do what it takes to do that! I still remember his first 4 years in the nba where he refused to play PF much because he said he was a complete SF that can do it all and that was where he wanted to be. That, I believe, resulted in less success for the TWolves in those earlier days as KG would have guarded the great PFs better and instead, guys like Gugliotta did and that cost them dearly.
Garnett is more versatile than most players in the nba and he will do great in more than one position if needed!
migya wrote:Other than that, many quality players would want to come to the Warriors if they get KG and so a SF can be easily obtained if needed.
#32 wrote:Doubtful. If that were true, than why doesn't Minnesoda have all-star players leaping at a shot to play with KG? Their squad with Spree and Cassell was good enough to lure a few free agents their way... and that didn't work. The key is the salary cap (and KG would max ours out).
Firstly, the TWolves have not gotten good players to surround Garnett more because the management has been stupid and they had chances to get better role players than what they have. The TWolves have never really had any player that is real good, other than Garnett, and that does not look appealing for players looking to be on a championship caliber team. The Warriors however, with Baron, JRich and Garnett, would look very much like a championship caliber team and therefore would be far more attractive to great role players!
I agree that the salary cap would be rather huge with KG added but Murphy, dun and Fisher's contracts basically add up to KG's so the team would be in the same position they are now salarywise.
migya wrote:As far as the PG position, Baron is still there until he gets traded (if ever) and Monta can backup both guard spots and this Will Bynum guy seems adequate for now also.
#32 wrote:Davis is injury prone, Monta Ellis plays best as SG (which is probably where he'll eventually end up), and Bynum won't be resigned next year. We'll be left without a backup.
PG is one of the easiest positions to fill so that will be no problem!