32 wrote:

facue420 wrote:

32 wrote:

facue420 wrote:he was asked to shoot more because everyone on knicks was on slumps. thats how Mike D'Antoni's runs his system just like when he was coaching phenix.

you can hate all you want, my point was in three months warriors still sux and the knicks has chance to be a better team.

Whose debating that the Warriors will be better than the Knicks? The topic is JEREMY LIN and my point is that if you think he's honestly a 20 and 8 player, I can't wait to hear what you have to say in 3 months when I bump this. Sure, NY will still be better than the Warriors. Big surprise, seeing as they kinda have this dude named Melo whose a top 10 nba player. But Lin will have crash landed back to earth by then. He might even be Baron Davis' backup. We'll see, won't we.

jimbob631 wrote:I think the ridiculous amount of free throws are the result of a stagnant offense that without Melo and Amare is led by Tyson Chandler and Landry Fields, two players who are inconsistent offensive players at best. The FGA will decrease when Amare and Melo comes back.

The fact that the offense has tremendously improved though with him starting speaks to his abilities as a point guard. Looking beyond the high assist numbers, other players such as Novak, Chandler, and Fields are playing better than they have all season. This is a great deal because the offense has been orchastrated by Lin.

I really don't want to debate the free throw thing, however its interesting to note that teams like Indiana, Sacremento, Utah, Minnesota, and Denver are top ten in free throws attempted. Two years ago New York was 28th, and three years ago they were 22nd.

But that's exactly it: 8 of the leagues top 10 free throw shooting teams are in the playoffs. And I also find it strange how much more NY is getting to the line with the same coach, same system, and only difference being two superstar players known for getting whistles. It's almost as though they were being placed for lottery positions when they were bad, but now are getting superstar whistles since they obviously won't be in the lottery this year. Fact is (and I know you're from NY, Jim, so I wanna preface this by simply reacknowledging that everything here is simply my own, personal opinion, but) regardless of whatever sport it is, NY and LA aaaaaaalways seem to get the special-treatment, big market, superstar whistles. I think the same thing about the Yankees, the Rangers, the Giants, the Jets... And (also) the Lakers, Dodgers, and Kings. I mean, seriously, if it's big money against any small market team, I usually see bias towards the big market; especially in the NBA (which I believe, behind boxing, is the most crooked major sport in America). David Stern loves money more than basketball and anytime a big market team has a chance to shine, he does whatever he can to put them on top.

Here's a question: if Jeremy Lin puts up identical numbers and leads the Memphis Grizzlies to a string of victories, are there any headlines popping up or any air time on national media being made about this kid? Everything gets blown up in NY, and it's a chicken-or-the-egg argument as to whether they shine through NY's hazy pressure or if NY simply makes a bigger deal about mediocre accomplishments. One thing we can all agree on is this: Jeremy Lin has played fantastically in these last 5 games. I'm very interested to see if he can keep this up.

i dont know how did u come up with the idea of when melo and stud come back, lins wont maintain his high level playmaking. with 2 all stars level players around him, its only going to make him better. i dont know what you have against asian athletes, but jeremy lin is foreal. and yes i will be here after 3 months. i hope u do too, hater

Okay. That's all I need to hear to establish your credibility. Me not drinking Jeremy Lin's kool-aid automatically makes me an Asian-American hater. Hahaha, there is a WORLD of middle-ground your skipping over there, sport. I'll see you in 3 months.

DleagueDelight wrote:I don't know if I will say he is or will ever be an all star or a top teir pg, but I can say that he has been doing an excellent job of making other players on his team better. Understanding his shooters and dissecting that PNR. Clearly no one can argue that his teammates seems to feed off of his energy.

32 wrote:He's playing out of his mind. For a guard that's a career 17% three-point shooter to be scoring the way he has... It's incredible.

The disagreement is only introduced when it becomes a matter of if he can sustain this. I - seeming, alone - don't believe he's a 20 and 8 guy. I really don't. I believe he's a 13 and 6 guy. Not bad, but not (pardon the pun) in-lin-ce-able. I believe his assist numbers and scoring are driven by the system he's in and I congratulate him for taking advantage of his opportunities. The point remains: I believe his novelty wears down (I have to be careful in this forum not to say it'll wear "off", but), Lin will have a tough time adjusting to teams that go under him on screens if he is in fact still a 15-25% three-point shooter. That's my only point. He has a weakness. And I have yet to see any teams exploit that; they're so worried about giving him a running start, teams are smothering him at half court and, (not to burst anyone's bubble, but) that FUELS his slashy style of play.

There are 2 guys as of now, off top, I can name that are elite point-guards without consistent 3-point range: Rajon Rondo and Tony Parker. That's it. Is anyone ready to put Lin in that category?

As a Bay Area guy, I hope he really is the 40% marksman that he worked so hard to be this past summer, it'll help him maintain these video game numbers. But as a realist, I still see Jeremy Lin for what he is and like I said above, Marcioulonis seems like his best case scenario. And that isn't bad.

Again, JUST SO IT'S CLEAR: he's making the most of his opportunities, he's shooting well over every statistical number he's ever put up in his NBA career, and he's played out of his mind for a week. My simple, sole concern is this: does Lin remain dominant if the opposition turns him into a jump shooter? (because, inevitably, NBA coaches and scouts will figure that out).

Guybrush wrote:Oh, come on Fine. Nobody is saying that we want to see Lin fail.