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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:22 am
Typical move by an inept franchise...Hiring a coach with zero coaching experience for a measly 2 million just reeks of cheap and misguided. There is a huge difference between being bold and being stupid. And, HTF is MJ more qualified than Brian Shaw?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:32 am
I agree with most of the people here, who are expressing their unhappiness with this. I mean, I'm trying to be positive, but so far, I'm not getting there. Why would you pick a guy with zero experience when you have available coaches that are proven, and have done some good things before? The only thing that comes to my mind is that we're being cheap again. But then, I don't see why we spent extra money on West and Myers when we didn't have too. Mind boggling...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:37 am
Beast Mode wrote:Better than any of the other candidates.... I'm not mad at all.

I have been reading your posts for years now and I respect your savvy and insight, but I can't understand on what basis you can possibly think that Jackson (Mark, not Phil) is in any way more qualified than ANY of the other candidates. Are they just waiting for the Knicks to fire D'Antoni and biding their time at the expense of the franchise?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:37 am
I am not too happy with the hire. Not that I have anything against Jackson, but how the ownership looked to drop the ball again. Lacob said a coach with experience was one of the most important things to the search and gets a guy with none.

I am willing to give Jackson a shot to prove his doubters wrong, but I think it is wishful thinking that he will be a great coach. None of the other candidates seemed like they would make great coaches either, you didn't get the sense the franchise could possibly be taking a huge step back at a crucial crossroads in our franchise.

Although the hire of Malone, a top assistant who has established credibility as a defensive specialist helps this hire immensely since he is the type of coach many wanted in the original hire, and should be a capable replacement if Jackson is a total flop.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:43 am
I defer to Jerry West and Co on this hire. Pat Riley came down from the broadcasting booth to lead the Showtime Lakers.

Guess what?
Pat Riley had zero coaching experience.

The key to this hire was that it was made as part of the overall strategic plan put forward by the new ownership group (now including Jerry West) and the front office.

The big test will be how the front office improves the player roster. Let's be honest here; Twardzik, St. Jean and Mullin were overmatched (at best) and incapable of evaluating both player as well as coaching talent.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:01 am
To be honest, i have basically taken a neutral position on this issue. I didn't want Jackson, but i didn't want Brian Shaw either. I was hoping for a veteran head coach.

But if Jackson is anything like his analysis position at ESPN, we should definately worry. He is incredibly repetitive, simple-minded, and defends the league WAY TO MUCH (not a big fan of pawns). He is 3rd all time in assists, and the team definately needed a PG minded coach. SO i am in wait and see mode.

I think now, the biggest focus needs to be on bringing in a key bigman, and possible trading Ellis to acquire one. Give this new coach an oppurtunity to succeed will be essential for both Jackson and the Warriors. Because, many people do not like the hire, Jackson is on a short leash. SO, the FO needs to help him have that chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:18 pm
uptempo wrote:I defer to Jerry West and Co on this hire. Pat Riley came down from the broadcasting booth to lead the Showtime Lakers.

Guess what?
Pat Riley had zero coaching experience.

The key to this hire was that it was made as part of the overall strategic plan put forward by the new ownership group (now including Jerry West) and the front office.

The big test will be how the front office improves the player roster. Let's be honest here; Twardzik, St. Jean and Mullin were overmatched (at best) and incapable of evaluating both player as well as coaching talent.


+1.

I wasn't thrilled about this. I never thought he had a chance. I really wanted Dwayne Casey. But... i guess they saw someting in him. And the fact that he was able to get Malone to join US instead of the LAKERS! speaks a lot to his selling ability. Why would Malone join us instead of the Lakers? There is no reason unless he was convinced they were going to do something special. I am carefully optimistic about this. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

And it looks like Mark will be here at minimum 3 years.

Oh, and by the way, Pat Riley and Doc Rivers did not have any coaching experience before becoming head coaches. They are both A list coaches. So it isn't so far out there to asume he can do it too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:36 pm
GSW Hoops Fan wrote: +1.

I wasn't thrilled about this. I never thought he had a chance. I really wanted Dwayne Casey. But... i guess they saw someting in him. And the fact that he was able to get Malone to join US instead of the LAKERS! speaks a lot to his selling ability. Why would Malone join us instead of the Lakers? There is no reason unless he was convinced they were going to do something special. I am carefully optimistic about this. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

One could argue that Malone feels Jackson is more likely to fail in GS than Brown in LA thus providing him with the opportunity to step in as HC.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:43 pm
kobe voice* why yall trippin?

i can name coaches with tons of coaching experience who failed just as much as i can name coaches with no experience that haven't succeeded as well... it doesn't matter yall... we weren't the ones interviewing the candidates so ALL of us will just have to wait and see... its just too early for us to be pegging this a bad or a good move
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:47 pm
Malone chose us because he knows that he will run this team and not Jackson. Plus for that reason i believe we gave him a lot better salary. Why do i say this? Because i read that they chose Jackson because of his positive attitude and because they believe that he will be a commanding presence in the locker rooms. All qualities that have nothing to do with how much basket he knows. That is why they say, that we are going to spent a lot of money on assistants to support him. The decision they say, it was Lacobs because he was impressed by Jackson's personality in his interview. Take notice that the whole NBA was busing that Jackson will be our next coach because he was the only one from the candidates that made a personal interview with Lacob. So if i get it straight Lacob was impressed so much from Jackson that he decided that there is no reason whatsoever to interview anyone else. I really, really , really hope they know what they are doing. I want stand another bad ownership to this historic franchise.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:52 pm
TRON wrote:Malone chose us because he knows that he will run this team and not Jackson. Plus for that reason i believe we gave him a lot better salary. Why do i say this? Because i read that they chose Jackson because of his positive attitude and because they believe that he will be a commanding presence in the locker rooms. All qualities that have nothing to do with how much basket he knows. That is why they say, that we are going to spent a lot of money on assistants to support him. The decision they say, it was Lacobs because he was impressed by Jackson's personality in his interview. Take notice that the whole NBA was busing that Jackson will be our next coach because he was the only one from the candidates that made a personal interview with Lacob. So if i get it straight Lacob was impressed so much from Jackson that he decided that there is no reason whatsoever to interview anyone else. I really, really , really hope they know what they are doing. I want stand another bad ownership to this historic franchise.


U starting to sound like a troll...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:12 pm
Lol what that means man???
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:46 pm
It's not like we passed up on a proven coach...It's not like Jerry Sloan was in the mix or anything or Phil Jackson...there were a bunch of assistant coaches that may have coached a game where the head coach got ejected or something. As long as we have a good game plan I'm excited. We have a defensive minded coach now! Took the Hornets from 102 points allowed a game to 95...Jackson isn't going to do all the coaching...the pieces around him should provide him with a good starting point. Every coach needs to start somewhere, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:55 pm
Mark Jackson just said on PTI he will love the opportunity to coach Monta Ellis. He said rumors will be rumors and he will make this team accountable to defense as his first objective to them.


So I'm hoping Golden State doesn't do this dumb ass trade. Monta Ellis can play defense but he hasn't had a coach who has really made them focus on it yet. Also that man is our closer/clutch guy so I don't wanna see him leave, especially for someone like Andre Iguadola.
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Pworld wrote:Mark Jackson just said on PTI he will love the opportunity to coach Monta Ellis. He said rumors will be rumors and he will make this team accountable to defense as his first objective to them.


So I'm hoping Golden State doesn't do this dumb ass trade. Monta Ellis can play defense but he hasn't had a coach who has really made them focus on it yet. Also that man is our closer/clutch guy so I don't wanna see him leave, especially for someone like Andre Iguadola.


if u watch warriors games enough, ull notice monte always go for steal, thats not playin good defense, and the fact that he doesnt run plays to pass the ball to our interior players, thats what made AB playin without passion. when bdavis was on the team he past the ball, and monte just demand the ball too much, 40mins a game?? of course we suck in 4th quater to close out games :banghead:
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