Mr. Crackerz wrote:Pete Carrol will be be a very happy man... Seattle is having an Amazing Draft. ALmost like in video games where you do these unrealistic trades by swapping picks.

Seattle is in an awful division. Dare I ask: Is it possible they compete for the division this year and make the playoffs?

Almost like Lebron James/ Derrick Rose for Stephen Curry/Monta Ellis

But on a serious note, this is a 2 horse race now between Pete Carroll & Mike Singletary... I seriously think the Seahawks will win the division as they've loaded up big time & even if Hassellbeck faulters they got whitehurst to take the reigns, where as The Niners didnt address the Quarterback & could be looking at some costly games because of that ignore.

& your running game is now perfect... spells the end of Julius Jones (did he get cut)

Lendale White is a bruiser and Washington is a speedster
(you'll have a good running game like the raiders BUSH & change of pace McFadden)

PAWNO wrote:

Mr. Crackerz wrote:Pete Carrol will be be a very happy man... Seattle is having an Amazing Draft. ALmost like in video games where you do these unrealistic trades by swapping picks.

Seattle is in an awful division. Dare I ask: Is it possible they compete for the division this year and make the playoffs?

Almost like Lebron James/ Derrick Rose for Stephen Curry/Monta Ellis

But on a serious note, this is a 2 horse race now between Pete Carroll & Mike Singletary... I seriously think the Seahawks will win the division as they've loaded up big time & even if Hassellbeck faulters they got whitehurst to take the reigns, where as The Niners didnt address the Quarterback & could be looking at some costly games because of that ignore.

& your running game is now perfect... spells the end of Julius Jones (did he get cut)

Lendale White is a bruiser and Washington is a speedster
(you'll have a good running game like the raiders BUSH & change of pace McFadden)

I think the Seahawks and the Raiders really improved themselves, but so did the Niners. I kinda agree with you about the QB situation PAWNO, but I still see the Niners as being a better team than the Seahawks at this point.

I do agree it's a two team race now. I think both the Seahawks and the Niners passed up the Cardinals.

Do you think Mays will "accidently" fly tackle Carroll? He seemed extremely pissed Carroll passed on him.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR FOOTBALL!!! ****, no football or basketball for sooooooo long now. I'm not sure I can make it through the down time.

PAWNO wrote:But on a serious note, this is a 2 horse race now between Pete Carroll & Mike Singletary...

Hey, let's wait to see what Arizona does. If Leinart delivers (big if, I know), they're also in the hunt. Dan Williams (a GREAT pick where they got him) and Dockett inside is gonna be a nightmare to run against, and losing Boldin won't hurt them that much. I expect a big season from Breaston. And now Beanie Wells should be key piece of their offense without Warner spreading the ball so much.

Everything relies on Leinart... but if he does well, it's definitely a three team race.

yeah, I would not count out Arizona.

The division is a complete cluster F!

I find it diificult to give the Niners the division when they have Alex Smith at QB and Jimmie Raye as their OC

I find it difficult to give the Seahawks the division considering how poor and how little depth they have in their offensive and defensive lines and with a completely new system

I find it difficult to give the Cards the division without Warner and Boldin. Warner really made that thing would because you could not blitz Warner. Can Lienert handle the immense pressure packages he will face?

I find it difficult to give the Rams the division because.... well, they are the Rams.

My draft evaluation

Grade: A+
- never given an A plus before but reallly feel like they hit it out of the part with this one. They came in with alot of needs (O line, RB, WR, defensive secondary, DE) and addressed them all. Although I dont think they hit the defensive line as hard as they needed to.

Round 1, Pick 6 (6) - OT Russell Okung (Oklahoma St)
I really wanted Trent Williams here but that was assuming Okung would be gone. I did not think their was a chance Okung would be there at 6. Offensive tackle was our biggest need and HAD to be addressed. To fill it with the most NFL ready tackle in the draft is a great marriage of value and need.

Round 1, Pick 14 (14) - SS Earl Thomas (Texas)
STUD, STUD, STUD. Really all you can say about Earl Thomas. Tremendous work ethic and love for the game. As instictual as any safety you will ever see. Can play inside or outside at Corner. Big time play maker in the defensive backfield.

Round 2, Pick 28 (60) - WR Golden Tate (Notre Dame)
How did Tate fall this far? I suppose because of his lack of great height. Think I love about Tate is how he fights for the ball and then is amazing running the ball after the catch. He reminds me of Hines Ward in many ways but his playing style is very similar to Steve Smith

Round 3 - NO PICKS

Round 4, Pick 13 (111) - CB Walter Thurmond (Oregon)
Big time talent coming off a bad knee injury. If he did not get hurt, he would have been a end of the 1st, early 2nd round pick. Great value here for an athletic cover corner that plays the posiition with strength and agressiveness

Round 4, Pick 29 (127) - DE E.J. Wilson (North Carolina)
Really dont know anything about this guy. Never seen him play other than highlight packages since the draft. Seems like he is an undersized and unathletic that has produced because of effert and toughness. Classic overachiever. Strength of his game is playing the run. Nothing more than a situational player in early and short yardage downs.

Round 5, Pick 2 (133) - FS Kam Chancellor (Virginia Tech)
Love this pick. This guy is basically Taylor Mays without the top end speed but you get him much lower in the draft. Seen this guy play a lot and he is big , athletic and will lay your ass out. Like Mays, he is a big hitter and is much more effective playing in the box than playing in coverage.

Round 6, Pick 16 (185) - TE Anthony McCoy (USC)
On the surface, TE is not a need with John Carlson and free agent acquisition Chris Baker on the team, however OC Jeremy Bates uses quite a bit of double-tight formations in his scheme. A 2nd round talent that fell due to off-field issues. I normally dont advocate picking guys like this but if anyone REALLY knows what kind of kid this is, it would be Carroll.

Round 7, Pick 29 (236) - DE Dexter Davis (Arizona State)
After grabbing an end that was better against the run earlier, here they grab a pass rush specialist. He has a chance to make the team with his speed and explosive ability off the line. BUt at most will be a situational pass rusher.

Round 7, Pick 38 (245) - WR Jameson Konz (Kent State)
No NOTHING about this guy. From all accounts he did not have a great career but had one of the best pro day workouts of any prospect in the draft. Dont expect him to make the team.

Acquired players during draft weekend:

RB Lendale White - I love this acquisition. I almost cost them NOTHING and they get a guy who is in shape now and motivated and playing with a chip on his shoulder. Love having a guy who runs tough.

RB Leon Washington - Hopefully he is healthy... if he is... WOW. Incredible in the return game and is a game changer out of the backfield. Great compliment to White

DT Kevin Vickerson - part of the White deal. Will add much needed depth to the inside of the defensive line.

bada wrote:RB Leon Washington - Hopefully he is healthy... if he is... WOW. Incredible in the return game and is a game changer out of the backfield. Great compliment to White

Only thing that worries me is that it's the same injury Caddy had, and it took him two years to be really back and ready to go.

Still, if he's healthy, he's gonna be a big improvement for the Seahawks. Maybe even more than White (yeah, I'm not much of a Lendale fan, although he didn't cost them much, so it's well worth a try... although it brings to mind some memories about TJ Duckett)

Yeah, Lendale is not a great back but certainly an improvement over J. Jones.

And I think he will be motivated and a bit rejuvinated. His contrasting style to Forsett and Washington is much needed.

And like you said, it really did not cost them anything. They moved back 11 spots in the 4th and 11 spots in the 6th and got White AND a serviceable rotation defensive tackle. Great trade.

update on Leon Washington. Sounds pretty promising. However I am expecting him to start on that 6 week injured list. I would take my time with him. Forsett and Lendale can hold it down then you would get a fresh Leon Washington in week 7

New Seahawks running back Leon Washington told Ian Furness of Seattle's KJR radio that he is 90 percent healed from the compound leg fracture he suffered last season. The injury wasn't something I followed closely because Washington wasn't in the NFC West, making this time to play catchup.

ESPN injury expert Stephania Bell, a physical therapist certified as an orthopedic clinical specialist and strength-and-conditioning specialist, thinks the Seahawks made a "reasonable" investment in Washington.

Washington suffered a broken tibia and fibula playing against the Raiders in late October. He hopes to be ready for training camp.

"Based on what he is doing right now, it looks pretty promising," Bell said. "His injury was a terrible injury, a compound fracture with lots of blood, very messy, gruesome and a tough injury to come back from. He has continued progress to make. But where he is at in this time frame bodes well. He is doing straight-line running already. Plus, he is relatively young."

Bell agreed with my thought that the Jets' doctors would have been candid with the Seahawks' doctors when they spoke before the trade. NFL doctors would know each other well and expect honesty from one another. There shouldn't be many surprises once Washington reports, in other words. Among the reasons Bell thinks Washington has a decent chance at regaining past form:

•Washington has only 370 career carries, a low number, and that means his body doesn't have a great deal of wear and tear by NFL standards.
•Washington is relatively young. He turns 28 in August.
•The injury did not occur near a joint. That means Washington is at less risk for arthritic complications.
That last point could be an important one. "Once it heals, it's pretty solid," Bell said. "It was nasty and horrible to go through, but once it heals, it should be a one-and-done type injury. It all depends on the healing. If someone heals well from this, they can do really well."

In case any of you are ever bored (pawno, I am talking to you! lol ) here is an interactive view into the Seahawks state of the art practice facility (Virginia Mason Athletic Center).

Built right on lake washington. Hope to get there in person on day.

Anway, when you hover over the image, you can click into each floor layout, then click on a room to open up photos of the room. Some rooms have multiple pictures that you can click through by clicking the little blue boxes on the upper right hand corner of the pictures.

http://www.seahawks.com/team/vmac/index.html

bada wrote:In case any of you are ever bored (pawno, I am talking to you! lol ) here is an interactive view into the Seahawks state of the art practice facility (Virginia Mason Athletic Center).

Built right on lake washington. Hope to get there in person on day.

Anway, when you hover over the image, you can click into each floor layout, then click on a room to open up photos of the room. Some rooms have multiple pictures that you can click through by clicking the little blue boxes on the upper right hand corner of the pictures.

http://www.seahawks.com/team/vmac/index.html

Very impressive...




But not even a shadow of One Buc Place:

http://www.buccaneers.com/onebucplace/facilitymain.aspx

TMC wrote:

bada wrote:In case any of you are ever bored (pawno, I am talking to you! lol ) here is an interactive view into the Seahawks state of the art practice facility (Virginia Mason Athletic Center).

Built right on lake washington. Hope to get there in person on day.

Anway, when you hover over the image, you can click into each floor layout, then click on a room to open up photos of the room. Some rooms have multiple pictures that you can click through by clicking the little blue boxes on the upper right hand corner of the pictures.

http://www.seahawks.com/team/vmac/index.html

Very impressive...




But not even a shadow of One Buc Place:

http://www.buccaneers.com/onebucplace/facilitymain.aspx

psh....

Your faclity is only 145,000 sqr feet compared to 200,000 for ours!!!

You have 3 full length outdoor fields... we also have 3 outdoor, but also the one full length indoor!

LOL

some other pictures of VMAC

Not a bad backdrop for practice huh

bada wrote:You have 3 full length outdoor fields... we also have 3 outdoor, but also the one full length indoor!

News for you buddy: it doesn't rain 300 days per year in Tampa. We do not need an indoor field.





(On a personal note... f*ck, I miss the rain)

lol

well from the looks of it, our two teams have the best HQ's in the league.

The Seahawks absolutely win on the landscape marks, tho...