bada wrote:Migya, really man, gotta give up the dream of being able to trade Biedrins and Azubuike for Al Jefferson.
Yes, there have been some bad trades in the league before but there is just NO way this would happen.
I realize where this is coming from cause as you have correctly identified, we are DESPARATE for post help. Why are we desparate for post help? Because Biedrins is NOT cutting it. He cant score, is the worst FT shooter in NBA history, and does not defend well. The only thing he does rather well is rebound.
So based on this, Biedrins is a HUGE downgrade at center for the Wolves. So what is their "prize" for downgrading at the most difficult position in the NBA to fill? Azubuike????? Azubuike is a dime a dozen player. A player like him is the easiest to replace in the league. hell, you have already said in other threads that the play of Williams and Morrow make him expendable. We found his replacement in the d-league.... TWICE! Heck, even he came from the d-league. You think they will trade their best player for the 7th and 8th best players on one of the worst teams in the league?
Firstly, let's be honest, maybe an AR/AB, PF/C duo could do quite well. This is going by what AB did before this awful season. 30mins each for those two, you could have AR averaging 10rebs & 2blks and AB averaging 10rebs & 1.5blks. That's just stats, but that also means production and some pretty good contribution from the PF & Center.
My point with that above, AB is productive and not the worst starting Center in the nba by a long shot. Coupling him with Love, Love being the PF, could be a very solid duo that rebounds and defends well, with Love being able to score much more. Maybe they keep Darko, who has played quite well, and they have a trio of bigs that rebound and defend well. With you saying AJefferson is actually a pretty bad defender (pretty sure it was you that said it), maybe the TWolves actually think they upgrade defensively.
Azu was not made expendable by either Morrow or Williams, at least in my opinion, and he has more ability right now than either of those two. I think Azu, a productive player that plays both ends and doesn't look like he has any weakness offensively, could fit in well with the likes of Flynn and CBrewer.
It is not a farfetched trade, not compared to many others I've seen the last few years. At least worth mentioning to the TWolves, who already shopped AJeff.
bada wrote:Say we get the 5th or 6th pick in the draft. I dont think even adding that pick gets you Jefferson, although that is starting to become a bit more realistic.
To get a "star big" as you say, I think it will take a combination of 2 of the following 3:
our 1st round pick.
If that first round pick is a top 3 pick, then perhaps we could use that along with others like AR, Azu, etc
Add in the lottery pick, top 2 or not and that is a coup for the TWolves, who need talent in a big way. Throw in the pick if needed.
I really think people think we have to sell the whole house to get talent, especially a talented big and we don't, just as other teams throughout the years haven't had to. You find a player that is being shopped and you know you don't have to pay too much, maybe you can't steal that player, but you have leverage in the knowledge that team is looking to get rid of that player.
If we can't get a star big without keeping Curry and AR, while not giving too much either, leave things alone then, much better than losing good players who will likely only get better.
There is always a way, you just have to ask around quietly