bada wrote:Why??? Because most of them are terribly unhappy people. I did not mean I feel terrible because they are a transexual but feel terrible because most of them are so unhappy. The suicide rate is something like 30% and like 50% of all transexuals have at least attempted suicide. So yes, I feel bad for that segment because it is a tough life.martin wrote:first why would anyone feel terrible about people being transexual? is there some standart of sexuality to being happy? well, no. hence, no need to feel sorry for people being as different as they are from statistical crowd.Martin wrote:why would one be against men ****ing their animals like goats on behalf of animal choice, while there's no problem eating them? did your goat, pig, cow voluntary decided to become your food and mean for your well-being? no. so, again, argument does not work.
I understand your point but you are nit picking semantics here martin. It is an old and tired argument regarding animal rights and eating and using them for clothing. And while TEHNICALLY speaking there is not much difference from a "choice" on the animals side, living things NEED to eat to survive and natural selection has put us on top of the food chain. Yes, sucks for the pig and goats out there, but that is the way it is. There is no NECESSITY to f*ck a goat.
but the terrible life they may have is not because of any natural things, but society rules that are, well, not natural, if you take nature to be a set of things that happen in it. actually, it's quite natural for girls act like boys and boys like girls through many stages, even up to late age, unless it's hampered by 'this is not right' argument.
as for natural selection, who cares?! it's natural for stronger to take davantage of weaker, should i use children and disabled persons to my advantage?! no. the same goes for loving animals. actually if you have researched, many animals become very attracted to other species if they are treated right and none of them seem to be in protest to have sexual intercourse with other members of different species if that does not go against the simple fact of self security, so to say. so, sex with animals is much more human than simply breeding them to kill them and eat them. and it's not a matter of semantics, but rather simple knowledge of animal life and at least a little bit of neuroscience, which states that such and such biological life systems may have evolved feeling of pain, fear of death and empathy. now, pain and death is what you bring to your animal food base. while you certainly may manage unpainful and satisfying act of sex/love with another species member. it may sound gross and ugly, but that's how it is.