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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:51 am
Pawno, you've grown up quite a bit over the last two years. Keep growing up
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:53 am
Pawno, I think you missed the point. I can't speak for Bada but I don't think this is a pride for country thing for him. but more of a 'this is a touchy subject so don't preach to me like you know the absolute truth and I'm clueless" thing... there's a difference.

we're all aware that there are evil greedy bastards in the world, in every country. Aussie, Rupert Murdoch being one of them. It's sad that you watch Feaux News... because it's the opposite of news.. but it's your right to do so.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:16 am
that is exacly right Pat, not a pride of country thing, although I think the Nazi America comparison went a bit too far. It is more just the typical attitude of conspiracy theorists that somehow they are a special group of people that seem to be more evolved and privy to the happenings in the world than the rest of us.

Bottom line is Migya does not know without repute that these theories are completely true. They are HIS truth, not MY truth, or not necessarily THE truth. Lets respect that people with all the same information may come to a different conclusion and that is OK. Does not make them stupid, clueless or ignorant.
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Money Morrow wrote:Pawno, I think you missed the point. I can't speak for Bada but I don't think this is a pride for country thing for him. but more of a 'this is a touchy subject so don't preach to me like you know the absolute truth and I'm clueless" thing... there's a difference.

we're all aware that there are evil greedy bastards in the world, in every country. Aussie, Rupert Murdoch being one of them. It's sad that you watch Feaux News... because it's the opposite of news.. but it's your right to do so.


I know i missed the point...

I was just trying to explain that the nazi germany comment upset me for an Aussie to accuse that of modern day america

seriously there will be no revolution in america from the people, because Americans pride themselves on freedom of speech... Can you imagine the public backlash is the government was to takeaway a tv channel like what has happened in Venezuala? Politicans would be leached.

The proof is in the pudding in regards to George W Bush campaign, he was the most hated man in America, (But he didn:t go shutdown news channels) I think a lot of the Western World have come to despise America for Georges run... i myself dont blame the people but only the leaders, so its wrong to cuss and yell at a U,S Citizen for there leaders mistakes (& trust me, a lot of the World <WEST n EAST> hates you)

I understand as well Patrick about Fox NEWS reputation as being a leader in the REPUBLICA6 N PROPAGANDA... But clearly your a DEMOCRAT SUPPORTER here & would have difficulty eating the crumbs of the crumbling cookie (i also do watch other news outlets such as SKY, CNN & BBC)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:25 pm
Back to the original debate, but i personally feel like that its good that corporations can now donate money to political campaigns and not have to hide behind false companies.

Most of Americans would dabble in Wall St, our lives are run by corporations, If theres a product i use everyday and they are telling me who is the best person i need to vote for to get that product cheap or that product unregulated then of course i might listen to what they say.

I think its totally wrong for you all to immediately think that this voting affects Republicans because a large bank or drug maker like Goldman Sachs and Phizer will have Democratics Customers and if they throw there support behind one party then theres a good chance that they alienate half of there demographic...

I think what you will find is more of a Niche market support for Politicans... A Company like John Deere might be inclined to support the Republicans cause where they sell most of there tractors is in the Agriculture heartland of Republican voters (red states) but then a company like well (actually im stumped... being from a Australia i dont really no the inner workings of what a Democrat voter is... maybe tissues cause they always seem to be crying) 8) JOKES
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:14 pm
bada wrote:that is exacly right Pat, not a pride of country thing, although I think the Nazi America comparison went a bit too far. It is more just the typical attitude of conspiracy theorists that somehow they are a special group of people that seem to be more evolved and privy to the happenings in the world than the rest of us.

Bottom line is Migya does not know without repute that these theories are completely true. They are HIS truth, not MY truth, or not necessarily THE truth. Lets respect that people with all the same information may come to a different conclusion and that is OK. Does not make them stupid, clueless or ignorant.



Look, it's hard for me to go soft with this subject. because I have spent much time researching it all. I didn't mean to offend, I've said that before and if you took offense, anyone else also, I can't change that. I'm certainly not going to be gagged for talking about this subject and I haven't abused anyone here for it
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:55 pm
i think u should at least apologize for using the nazi germany comment
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:04 pm
migya wrote:I'm certainly not going to be gagged for talking about this subject and I haven't abused anyone here for it


Provided you only talk about this subject here in off-topic then you wont be gagged
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:08 pm
Another forum i use to post at had a no religion or political rule where even in the off topic section those topics were unable to be talked.

unfortuneatly for me i got banned when i made a comment about a 3 yr old broncos fan dressed in team apparel will grow up to be a cute lil Bronco'ette

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:44 pm
i have seen several boards ruined by allowing political and religious discussion. I will stay out of the conversations as much as I can but as long as it stays here so people can avoid it if they wish, I dont have any issues with adults discussing it if they want.

But I will be very strict about immediately moving any political or religeous posts if not in off topic.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:08 pm
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Money Morrow wrote:Pawno, I think you missed the point. I can't speak for Bada but I don't think this is a pride for country thing for him. but more of a 'this is a touchy subject so don't preach to me like you know the absolute truth and I'm clueless" thing... there's a difference.

we're all aware that there are evil greedy bastards in the world, in every country. Aussie, Rupert Murdoch being one of them. It's sad that you watch Feaux News... because it's the opposite of news.. but it's your right to do so.


I know i missed the point...

I was just trying to explain that the nazi germany comment upset me for an Aussie to accuse that of modern day america

seriously there will be no revolution in america from the people, because Americans pride themselves on freedom of speech... Can you imagine the public backlash is the government was to takeaway a tv channel like what has happened in Venezuala? Politicans would be leached.

The proof is in the pudding in regards to George W Bush campaign, he was the most hated man in America, (But he didn:t go shutdown news channels) I think a lot of the Western World have come to despise America for Georges run... i myself dont blame the people but only the leaders, so its wrong to cuss and yell at a U,S Citizen for there leaders mistakes (& trust me, a lot of the World <WEST n EAST> hates you)

I understand as well Patrick about Fox NEWS reputation as being a leader in the REPUBLICA6 N PROPAGANDA... But clearly your a DEMOCRAT SUPPORTER here & would have difficulty eating the crumbs of the crumbling cookie (i also do watch other news outlets such as SKY, CNN & BBC)


It's true that I'd rather see a democratic agenda pushed through than a republican one, but in reality I identify with neither and think that both parties each have a nut in their mouth at the capitalistic gang bang at this point. We now live in a corporatocracy. A true democracy has never existed here. It has gotten so bad, that pretty soon we will all be able to claim taxation without representation.

Half the problem in this country is that we can't even have a cogent debate about these issues because the majority of our citizens do not understand wtf they are talking about... basic definitions: what is socialism, communism, democracy, plutocracy, etc... so it turns into a shouting match between the most vulgar, undereducated, and angry of our citizens.... the rest of us want nothing to do with that...

Every time I've met someone not from the US, since gulf (OIL) war 2, I tell them I'm from the Bay Area, and every one of them knows somehow, that the idiots they are talking about, don't live here.... much of that has died down since we got rid of Beavis in the white house, and Obama has opened up new discourse.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:23 pm
Fascism is basically coporatism, where corporations, in other words private groups that are not elected by the people. rule the country and control the government. It used to be done overtly, like in Nazi Germany and Musilini Italy, as examples, but now it is done covertly, incremently and is not so obvious. People just have to look at history and they can see the same things repeat themselves. Just because the U.S., as an example, doesn't have outright, open fascism, doesn't mean that it is not happening and already taking over.

You look at what happened in Germany soon after Adolph Hitler was elected. The "officially" documented "false flag" terrorist attack on the German government building called Richtag building (not sure about spelling), led to the formation of the "fatherland security" of Germany, which took away many freedoms and rights of the german people. You look at the U.S. and the same thing happened with 911 terrorist disasters, which were false flag terrorist attacks, though not documented as such officially. That led to the setup of "Homeland Security", which did the same thing as the Nazi's Fatherland Security. That's just one example, comparing the current day U.S., to Nazi Germany some sixty years ago.

Another thing is the presence of the Central bank called Federal Reserve. Only a socialist, fascist and/or communist country has a private central bank controlling the money. True democracy and republics do not, it is the government, which is elected and answers to the people that controls the money and currency.

Again, I'm going to use the Obama Deception thread to post of this information, with references, as soon as possible. Those that want to read and view the footage, good on them
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:33 am
bada wrote:i have seen several boards ruined by allowing political and religious discussion. I will stay out of the conversations as much as I can but as long as it stays here so people can avoid it if they wish, I dont have any issues with adults discussing it if they want.

But I will be very strict about immediately moving any political or religeous posts if not in off topic.


Same here. I don't think there's a problem with religion and political discussion. Actually, I'd even encourage it, but only as long as it's done in the right place and following certain rules of behavior.
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bada wrote:i have seen several boards ruined by allowing political and religious discussion. I will stay out of the conversations as much as I can but as long as it stays here so people can avoid it if they wish, I dont have any issues with adults discussing it if they want.

But I will be very strict about immediately moving any political or religeous posts if not in off topic.


Same here. I don't think there's a problem with religion and political discussion. Actually, I'd even encourage it, but only as long as it's done in the right place and following certain rules of behavior.


Well, the issues that have caused "heated" debate in here have mostly been about the way Migya is being so god damned condescending.

Weve had plenty of talk on here about religion, politics, conspiracies, death, economics etc etc.............but never have had anyone try and play it like they are the only one who "knows the truth" and how the rest of us are "un-educated and need to read up"

Just so f*cking annoying and ridiculous to read constantly, over and over..........and completely spoils opportunities for debates that would have been extremely interesting to talk about (especially to me, considering Ive read and seen the same/if not more, as what Migya has.........another thing he seems to forget, that I was saying these things here years before he was)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:57 am
Yeah, I agree with Bigs... this is what caused a couple of my friends to go vegetarian. They were reading too many things on the internet that influenced their minds, and suddenly he stopped eating meat and became a vegetarian.

I'm all for everyone to give their opinion on a subject. But c'mon, we can't have that "I'm right, you're wrong look it up" approach. Unless it's CLEAR CUT FACTS, like on Warrior topics, then it needs to be limited. I respect you migya on your thoughts and you're fully obliged to talk about it, but the way you present your information to someone when they post something political that either is against what you believe or just a topic of debate, you seem to have "the answer" to everything. Obama deception this, federal reserve that.

Look, I believe the most corrupt place in America is Washington DC, but I'm not going to go out and preach it when my facts aren't clear cut.
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