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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:50 pm
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"Always" Next wrote:how about Monta / Biedrins / Jackson for Bosh / DeRozan / Marcus Banks? This works on the trade machine, I would only do this if we were guaranteed to sign Bosh long term, but it would free up lots of $$ over the next couple years if we didnt get Bosh on an extended deal.



I love Marcus Banks, so does TMC :mrgreen:

I'd do that trade as it gets rid of SJack and Monta as well (as his attitude has been a bit bad also).

I don't like Bosh that much, especially defensively, as he isn't that great. He is not a tough inside player, more of a midrange and outside shooting big. He would fit well in the run and gun system of Nelson, but I'd prefer Amare much more


Really??? I don't see how that trade would make us better.

Banks isn't worth the 4-4.5 million he's getting paid and had his one season of glory in Phoenix. I'd rather play Law than Banks. Bosh would be forced into a full time C position which he hasn't played and neither him nor Randolph are a post presence...while both can rebound, neither one has the offensive post game nor the strength to handle a bunch of the league's centers. I like the potential DeRozan has, but you guys are basically saying you will hand over our 3 best players for an all-star, an unproven--despite being talented rookie, and a bum who will warm the bench for two seasons at 4 million per?

I, too, am getting frustrated with Jackson and his distractions and I can see Monta being a problem in the future if he develops an attitude like Jackson's...but like it or not that is WAY too much to give for what we'd get in return. I think the only REAL problem I'd have with this trade is Marcus Banks...so not worth the money. If he was expiring after this season then I have no problem, but that's not the case.


. Bosh at Center is alot like Biedrins at Center,



lol except they are pretty completely opposite. One scores and doesnt really rebound, the other vice versa

And no way the Raptors trade Derozan with Bosh. Thats crazy talk



Biedrins is a great rebounder, only getting about 30mins a game and yet getting over 11rebs a game, but Bosh gets 10rebs a game himself, among the league leaders, so not a huge difference. The blocks aren't a whole lot different either, as Bosh is lousy for a superstar big, but Biedrins doesn't get much himself either, something I thought he'd do better by now.

As for DeRozan, they have Belinelli now and he is starting material I think. DeRozan is not worth Monta either, not even close, at least right now and for DeRozan to get to the level of Monta, well I wouldn't bet money on it, as Monta is a top 40-top 50 player, DeRozan is a rookie and not exactly the best one in his class either.

You wouldn't do this trade if it could be done?


oh, I'd do it in a heartbeat id Bosh were long term. I just don't think Toronto would touch it
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:22 pm
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
E-Man wrote:
migya wrote:
"Always" Next wrote:how about Monta / Biedrins / Jackson for Bosh / DeRozan / Marcus Banks? This works on the trade machine, I would only do this if we were guaranteed to sign Bosh long term, but it would free up lots of $$ over the next couple years if we didnt get Bosh on an extended deal.



I love Marcus Banks, so does TMC :mrgreen:

I'd do that trade as it gets rid of SJack and Monta as well (as his attitude has been a bit bad also).

I don't like Bosh that much, especially defensively, as he isn't that great. He is not a tough inside player, more of a midrange and outside shooting big. He would fit well in the run and gun system of Nelson, but I'd prefer Amare much more


Really??? I don't see how that trade would make us better.

Banks isn't worth the 4-4.5 million he's getting paid and had his one season of glory in Phoenix. I'd rather play Law than Banks. Bosh would be forced into a full time C position which he hasn't played and neither him nor Randolph are a post presence...while both can rebound, neither one has the offensive post game nor the strength to handle a bunch of the league's centers. I like the potential DeRozan has, but you guys are basically saying you will hand over our 3 best players for an all-star, an unproven--despite being talented rookie, and a bum who will warm the bench for two seasons at 4 million per?

I, too, am getting frustrated with Jackson and his distractions and I can see Monta being a problem in the future if he develops an attitude like Jackson's...but like it or not that is WAY too much to give for what we'd get in return. I think the only REAL problem I'd have with this trade is Marcus Banks...so not worth the money. If he was expiring after this season then I have no problem, but that's not the case.


. Bosh at Center is alot like Biedrins at Center,



lol except they are pretty completely opposite. One scores and doesnt really rebound, the other vice versa

And no way the Raptors trade Derozan with Bosh. Thats crazy talk



Biedrins is a great rebounder, only getting about 30mins a game and yet getting over 11rebs a game, but Bosh gets 10rebs a game himself, among the league leaders, so not a huge difference. The blocks aren't a whole lot different either, as Bosh is lousy for a superstar big, but Biedrins doesn't get much himself either, something I thought he'd do better by now.

As for DeRozan, they have Belinelli now and he is starting material I think. DeRozan is not worth Monta either, not even close, at least right now and for DeRozan to get to the level of Monta, well I wouldn't bet money on it, as Monta is a top 40-top 50 player, DeRozan is a rookie and not exactly the best one in his class either.

You wouldn't do this trade if it could be done?


oh, I'd do it in a heartbeat id Bosh were long term. I just don't think Toronto would touch it


I'd do it regardless if Bosh doesn't sign an extension or not. Either way, we get rid of two big contracts, one a guy that has to go for sure, and the other a guy that is close to having to go for sure as well. Also, the team would have another fifteen or so million to work with
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:13 pm
migya wrote:
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
E-Man wrote:
migya wrote:
"Always" Next wrote:how about Monta / Biedrins / Jackson for Bosh / DeRozan / Marcus Banks? This works on the trade machine, I would only do this if we were guaranteed to sign Bosh long term, but it would free up lots of $$ over the next couple years if we didnt get Bosh on an extended deal.



I love Marcus Banks, so does TMC :mrgreen:

I'd do that trade as it gets rid of SJack and Monta as well (as his attitude has been a bit bad also).

I don't like Bosh that much, especially defensively, as he isn't that great. He is not a tough inside player, more of a midrange and outside shooting big. He would fit well in the run and gun system of Nelson, but I'd prefer Amare much more


Really??? I don't see how that trade would make us better.

Banks isn't worth the 4-4.5 million he's getting paid and had his one season of glory in Phoenix. I'd rather play Law than Banks. Bosh would be forced into a full time C position which he hasn't played and neither him nor Randolph are a post presence...while both can rebound, neither one has the offensive post game nor the strength to handle a bunch of the league's centers. I like the potential DeRozan has, but you guys are basically saying you will hand over our 3 best players for an all-star, an unproven--despite being talented rookie, and a bum who will warm the bench for two seasons at 4 million per?

I, too, am getting frustrated with Jackson and his distractions and I can see Monta being a problem in the future if he develops an attitude like Jackson's...but like it or not that is WAY too much to give for what we'd get in return. I think the only REAL problem I'd have with this trade is Marcus Banks...so not worth the money. If he was expiring after this season then I have no problem, but that's not the case.


. Bosh at Center is alot like Biedrins at Center,



lol except they are pretty completely opposite. One scores and doesnt really rebound, the other vice versa

And no way the Raptors trade Derozan with Bosh. Thats crazy talk



Biedrins is a great rebounder, only getting about 30mins a game and yet getting over 11rebs a game, but Bosh gets 10rebs a game himself, among the league leaders, so not a huge difference. The blocks aren't a whole lot different either, as Bosh is lousy for a superstar big, but Biedrins doesn't get much himself either, something I thought he'd do better by now.

As for DeRozan, they have Belinelli now and he is starting material I think. DeRozan is not worth Monta either, not even close, at least right now and for DeRozan to get to the level of Monta, well I wouldn't bet money on it, as Monta is a top 40-top 50 player, DeRozan is a rookie and not exactly the best one in his class either.

You wouldn't do this trade if it could be done?


oh, I'd do it in a heartbeat id Bosh were long term. I just don't think Toronto would touch it


I'd do it regardless if Bosh doesn't sign an extension or not. Either way, we get rid of two big contracts, one a guy that has to go for sure, and the other a guy that is close to having to go for sure as well. Also, the team would have another fifteen or so million to work with



so you'd trade Biedrins, Monta and Jackson, in effect, for expirers?

have to disagree with that
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:51 pm
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
Quazza wrote:
migya wrote:
E-Man wrote:
migya wrote:
"Always" Next wrote:how about Monta / Biedrins / Jackson for Bosh / DeRozan / Marcus Banks? This works on the trade machine, I would only do this if we were guaranteed to sign Bosh long term, but it would free up lots of $$ over the next couple years if we didnt get Bosh on an extended deal.



I love Marcus Banks, so does TMC :mrgreen:

I'd do that trade as it gets rid of SJack and Monta as well (as his attitude has been a bit bad also).

I don't like Bosh that much, especially defensively, as he isn't that great. He is not a tough inside player, more of a midrange and outside shooting big. He would fit well in the run and gun system of Nelson, but I'd prefer Amare much more


Really??? I don't see how that trade would make us better.

Banks isn't worth the 4-4.5 million he's getting paid and had his one season of glory in Phoenix. I'd rather play Law than Banks. Bosh would be forced into a full time C position which he hasn't played and neither him nor Randolph are a post presence...while both can rebound, neither one has the offensive post game nor the strength to handle a bunch of the league's centers. I like the potential DeRozan has, but you guys are basically saying you will hand over our 3 best players for an all-star, an unproven--despite being talented rookie, and a bum who will warm the bench for two seasons at 4 million per?

I, too, am getting frustrated with Jackson and his distractions and I can see Monta being a problem in the future if he develops an attitude like Jackson's...but like it or not that is WAY too much to give for what we'd get in return. I think the only REAL problem I'd have with this trade is Marcus Banks...so not worth the money. If he was expiring after this season then I have no problem, but that's not the case.


. Bosh at Center is alot like Biedrins at Center,



lol except they are pretty completely opposite. One scores and doesnt really rebound, the other vice versa

And no way the Raptors trade Derozan with Bosh. Thats crazy talk



Biedrins is a great rebounder, only getting about 30mins a game and yet getting over 11rebs a game, but Bosh gets 10rebs a game himself, among the league leaders, so not a huge difference. The blocks aren't a whole lot different either, as Bosh is lousy for a superstar big, but Biedrins doesn't get much himself either, something I thought he'd do better by now.

As for DeRozan, they have Belinelli now and he is starting material I think. DeRozan is not worth Monta either, not even close, at least right now and for DeRozan to get to the level of Monta, well I wouldn't bet money on it, as Monta is a top 40-top 50 player, DeRozan is a rookie and not exactly the best one in his class either.

You wouldn't do this trade if it could be done?


oh, I'd do it in a heartbeat id Bosh were long term. I just don't think Toronto would touch it


I'd do it regardless if Bosh doesn't sign an extension or not. Either way, we get rid of two big contracts, one a guy that has to go for sure, and the other a guy that is close to having to go for sure as well. Also, the team would have another fifteen or so million to work with



so you'd trade Biedrins, Monta and Jackson, in effect, for expirers?

have to disagree with that



DeRozan is not an expirer, but a rookie that could have promise. Just for expirers, I'd still do it, just to get rid of SJack and even Monta, who will never be able to coexist with Curry I believe and so will end up going anyway. Losing Biedrins is a hit and something I wouldn't want to do, so maybe giving BWright instead of Biedrins could work. Getting Bosh and the possibility of either keeping him or having so much money to use on getting free agents next offseason, is a big positive for getting rid of one nutter
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No point having cap space when no one wants to come here
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:07 am
Quazza wrote:No point having cap space when no one wants to come here



Players want money, the highest they can get. At least one very good player would come here, it's just not getting another Maggette, overpaid type, which probably would happen
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