gswrules wrote:The police officer who shot Oscar Grant is clearly lying! He didn't react as if he "accidentally" shot Grant. It took him quite a while to come up with the excuse that he "accidentally grabbed the taser."

I'm glad the "officer" was arrested. But why so late? He should have been arrested soon after the murder. I hate it when police officers get certain rights and privileges that others don't.

May justice be served!

Captain_Jack wrote:THIS is what protests and riots do. I'm not condoning violence, but sometimes public unrest is needed to prompt the correct action.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... .DTL&tsp=1

(01-14) 00:13 PST Oakland -- The BART police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man on an Oakland train platform and then refused to explain his actions to investigators was arrested Tuesday in Nevada on suspicion of murder, authorities said.

Johannes Mehserle, 27, of Lafayette was taken into custody in Douglas County, Nev., said Deputy Steve Velez of the Douglas County sheriff's office. The arrest was also confirmed by David Chai, chief of staff to Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums.

warriorsstepup wrote:

Captain_Jack wrote:THIS is what protests and riots do. I'm not condoning violence, but sometimes public unrest is needed to prompt the correct action.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... .DTL&tsp=1

(01-14) 00:13 PST Oakland -- The BART police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man on an Oakland train platform and then refused to explain his actions to investigators was arrested Tuesday in Nevada on suspicion of murder, authorities said.

Johannes Mehserle, 27, of Lafayette was taken into custody in Douglas County, Nev., said Deputy Steve Velez of the Douglas County sheriff's office. The arrest was also confirmed by David Chai, chief of staff to Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums.

It took some time to arrest him despite the evidence against him. This is good news, it should calm the unrest in the city. I will really like to hear his explanation for the shooting.

RobDIKUM wrote:

warriorsstepup wrote:

Captain_Jack wrote:THIS is what protests and riots do. I'm not condoning violence, but sometimes public unrest is needed to prompt the correct action.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... .DTL&tsp=1

(01-14) 00:13 PST Oakland -- The BART police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man on an Oakland train platform and then refused to explain his actions to investigators was arrested Tuesday in Nevada on suspicion of murder, authorities said.

Johannes Mehserle, 27, of Lafayette was taken into custody in Douglas County, Nev., said Deputy Steve Velez of the Douglas County sheriff's office. The arrest was also confirmed by David Chai, chief of staff to Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums.

It took some time to arrest him despite the evidence against him. This is good news, it should calm the unrest in the city. I will really like to hear his explanation for the shooting.

cap, you're on crack if you think rioting is what led to the arrest.

RobDIKUM wrote:having it caught on tape is what got him arrested, not the rioting. All the different camera angles show that there was no surprise when he fired the shot. So it looks like intent which is a probable cause for the charge of murder. If it wouldn't have been caught on tape you could be right, probably are right in terms of the police trying to sweep it under the rug. But you can't say " look at what the rioting produced" , that's ridiculous cap. The people marching had more of an effect than the people causing destruction.

fine wrote:the media and whatnot were all over this even before the videos came out. After the videos, it started to make national news and then came the protests. i like to think that justice would have been served without the riots, but it's something we can never prove.

Captain_Jack wrote:

fine wrote:the media and whatnot were all over this even before the videos came out. After the videos, it started to make national news and then came the protests. i like to think that justice would have been served without the riots, but it's something we can never prove.

Thing is, it's not national news. Aside from the initial report, there has not been one story about this on the news down here in San Diego. There has been absolutely nothing since New Years.

Mr. Crackerz wrote:

Captain_Jack wrote:

fine wrote:the media and whatnot were all over this even before the videos came out. After the videos, it started to make national news and then came the protests. i like to think that justice would have been served without the riots, but it's something we can never prove.

Thing is, it's not national news. Aside from the initial report, there has not been one story about this on the news down here in San Diego. There has been absolutely nothing since New Years.

It is national news capt... its been all over CNN for like a week.

My opinion in this matter is much like Robs. The rioting did not lead to a quicker or slower resolution. The fact is, it was an on going investigation and the police did their job. If they were going to do something, they were going to resolve it right. It would be completely ludicrous if rioting was a deciding factor in this matter. How unjust would that be if that happened?

Captain_Jack wrote:

Mr. Crackerz wrote:

Captain_Jack wrote:

fine wrote:the media and whatnot were all over this even before the videos came out. After the videos, it started to make national news and then came the protests. i like to think that justice would have been served without the riots, but it's something we can never prove.

Thing is, it's not national news. Aside from the initial report, there has not been one story about this on the news down here in San Diego. There has been absolutely nothing since New Years.

It is national news capt... its been all over CNN for like a week.

My opinion in this matter is much like Robs. The rioting did not lead to a quicker or slower resolution. The fact is, it was an on going investigation and the police did their job. If they were going to do something, they were going to resolve it right. It would be completely ludicrous if rioting was a deciding factor in this matter. How unjust would that be if that happened?

I guess SD doesn't think it's important, I watch the news every night...they haven't talked about it.

Captain_Jack wrote:

RobDIKUM wrote:having it caught on tape is what got him arrested, not the rioting. All the different camera angles show that there was no surprise when he fired the shot. So it looks like intent which is a probable cause for the charge of murder. If it wouldn't have been caught on tape you could be right, probably are right in terms of the police trying to sweep it under the rug. But you can't say " look at what the rioting produced" , that's ridiculous cap. The people marching had more of an effect than the people causing destruction.

If that were the case they would have arrested him immediately. Those videos are damning evidence, there was no reason for a full out "investigation", but because it was a cop they did one any way.

Like I said before, I am not condoning violence or destruction, but as proven throughout history public dissent and "revolution" are often the only ways to get things done. Peaceful demonstrations would not have had nearly the same effect, they would have put some pressure, but this put serious pressure and serious pressure to act quickly.

Mr. Crackerz wrote:

Captain_Jack wrote:

Mr. Crackerz wrote:

Captain_Jack wrote:

fine wrote:the media and whatnot were all over this even before the videos came out. After the videos, it started to make national news and then came the protests. i like to think that justice would have been served without the riots, but it's something we can never prove.

Thing is, it's not national news. Aside from the initial report, there has not been one story about this on the news down here in San Diego. There has been absolutely nothing since New Years.

It is national news capt... its been all over CNN for like a week.

My opinion in this matter is much like Robs. The rioting did not lead to a quicker or slower resolution. The fact is, it was an on going investigation and the police did their job. If they were going to do something, they were going to resolve it right. It would be completely ludicrous if rioting was a deciding factor in this matter. How unjust would that be if that happened?

I guess SD doesn't think it's important, I watch the news every night...they haven't talked about it.

haha what station do u watch there.. i use to watch channel 8 when i was down there (the CBS affiliate one i think). Not that the news was better or worse than the other ones, just the anchor chick was smoking hot.

But yeah, i stick with newspapers or online for real news, and not the puff pieces from local stations.

Captain_Jack wrote:

RobDIKUM wrote:having it caught on tape is what got him arrested, not the rioting. All the different camera angles show that there was no surprise when he fired the shot. So it looks like intent which is a probable cause for the charge of murder. If it wouldn't have been caught on tape you could be right, probably are right in terms of the police trying to sweep it under the rug. But you can't say " look at what the rioting produced" , that's ridiculous cap. The people marching had more of an effect than the people causing destruction.

If that were the case they would have arrested him immediately. Those videos are damning evidence, there was no reason for a full out "investigation", but because it was a cop they did one any way.

Like I said before, I am not condoning violence or destruction, but as proven throughout history public dissent and "revolution" are often the only ways to get things done. Peaceful demonstrations would not have had nearly the same effect, they would have put some pressure, but this put serious pressure and serious pressure to act quickly.