Offseason Trade: Raid Orlando?

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Is this a good trade?

Yes, no problems
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Yes, but we'd need to sweeten it a little
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No, we'd need to throw in a lot more for Orlando
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No, I don't want those players
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:23 pm
GSW trades: (C) Andris Biedrins [$9 million], (SF) Richard Jefferson [$12 million]

ORL trades: (PF) Al Harrington [$7 million], (SG) Aaron Afflalo [$7 million], (PF/C) Glen Davis [$6 million]

Orlando is going nowhere and wants a high draft pick plus expirers. This trade gives them $21 million off the books and puts them in tank mode next year for an unquestionable shot at the highest draft pick. Meanwhile, we sure up the bench brigade for another playoff run. Our depth chart, for 2013-'14, becomes:

C : Andrew Bogut / Festus Ezeli / Glen Davis
PF: David Lee / Al Harrington /
SF: Harrison Barnes / Brandon Rush / Draymond Green
SG: Klay Thompson / Aaron Afflalo
PG: Steph Curry / Kent Bazemore

Davis and Harrington pull double-duty, replacing Landry and giving us insurance for if (when?) Andrew Bogut goes down, and Afflalo (along with a returning Rush) gives us a lock down defensive specialist. We still need a backup 1, but we'd have a mid level exception to handle that. Without our 1st round pick, this would be a terrific way to boost our roster without blowing it up or screwing over our chemistry. Plus, all 3 guys have an extra year on their deals so this isn't a quick rental. Klay and Barnes will be on their rookie deals until after the 3 guys expire and I seriously doubt we lose Bogut if he keeps playing like this.

Match made in heaven?? Can anyone honestly veto this?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:51 pm
I'd like to point out Klay is a lock down defender.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:43 pm
He's not a lock down defender because he still gets beat, but he's very effective in short stretches.

I don't think Orlando will go into full tank mode.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:56 pm
I love the idea of bringing in Afflalo and Baby David, as they're both very serviceable players, but the idea of bringing back Harrington irks me. He doesn't play defense and that doesn't fit with the identity we've built this past year. I can't believe I just said that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:13 pm
8th ave wrote:He's not a lock down defender because he still gets beat, but he's very effective in short stretches.

I don't think Orlando will go into full tank mode.



Everyone gets beat every now and than. He is certainly not Avery Bradley or Allen, but he is a premiere defender and why are perimeter defense is so good.


I am going to reiterate some statistics I have mentioned before: fourth fewest shots at the rim against us, second most threes taken vs us, 5th best three point defense in terms of percentage.

Klay is our best defender on the wing and he's why our wing defense is so good.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:01 pm
We have different opinions on what constitutes a lock-down defender. Hind behind your stats =P
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:27 pm
Contrary to popular belief, stats are actually what happened on the court.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:39 am
Looks not bad, but Orlando will not trade all their good players. I'd do it, though it would limit resigning of Rush and Landry if he opts in. It'd be good to have two starting caliber guards as backups, but I don't think it'd work so well in real life in keeping everyone happy. Be something though, getting rid of AB and RJ for some useful talent. The thing is once those gained players contracts are up, they won't be resigned for anywhere near the same amount of money, as Klay and Barnes will be up for resigning, Klay in two seasons and Barnes in three.

I'd much rather resign what we have, as in Rush (if he proves he is worth keeping and worth 4 million as a backup), Landry and Jack for now and then evaluate them again when their contracts come up, which should be after another four or five years. That way we keep what has done well for us this season and have proven players under contracts that expire at roughly different times. Bogut is the one right now that has to get healthy enough and prove that he is worth a resign of about the same money he's on now. He also is a keeper if proven and produces like he has recently.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:25 am
I'd like to keep what we have too... But we just simply can't afford it.

Jarrett Jack's $5.5 million is going nowhere but up. He's viewed as a huge commodity this offseason. If Jeremy Lin can get a poison pill deal for $40 million, you better believe Jack can too. Jack won't be getting a similar deal for less than $6 million; he'll be getting closer to $7.5-8 million next year. With Rush opting back in (a certainty), we're already pretty much priced out.

Realistically, we have the MLE to resign both Jack and Landry. That won't cut it.

I think the most reliable way to address our depth issues is via trade. Players like Afflalo already have set contracts. Trading the RJ-AB package to a team that wants to tank is our best chance at getting veteran talent in return. To me, Orlando is one of 5 teams whose season is already over before it even begins. Why not play to that and pick up their productive players; who are gonna leave when their contracts are up anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:40 am
Please keep Al Harrington as far the **** away from my team as possible. He was non existent our last playoff run.

We're holding on to these guys for one more season. We're gonna have near 40 million off the books after next season.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:38 am
Beast Mode wrote:Please keep Al Harrington as far the **** away from my team as possible. He was non existent our last playoff run.

We're holding on to these guys for one more season. We're gonna have near 40 million off the books after next season.

But you gotta assume at least $10 of that is for a Bogut resign... And we'll be needing a good amount of it for Klay and Barnes' resigns, so why not invest it in short-term role players who will expire by the time Klay needs to get paid?

Al Harrington certainly left on sour terms last time, but he always shows up to a new assignment with a big smile and ready to contribute. I think his value as a stretch 4 off the bench is substantially superior to his previous role as the team's big man and 3rd/4th scoring option. Relying on Harrington is trouble; having him as a bench scorer who can potentially pour in 20 every blue moon and again, while at the same time has zero foundational value and is used purely as an off-the-bench shooter, isn't. Besides, without his rowdy ass buddies (SJax, Monta, Barnes) to fuel the fire, I doubt Harrington would be a problem. Denver put him in his place; I believe so can we.

And, of course, if not... No big loss. We wouldn't be giving him major minutes anyhow.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:53 pm
Al Harrington is awful now.

I like him though.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:11 am
If Jack can't be resigned for less than 7 million and Landry for less than 5 million, as well as either AB or RJ traded for a future 2nd rounder or something, then this trade is something to look at and something that would add value short term to the team. I do think that the team should pay to keep Jack and even Landry, because either way, alot of salary is available after next season.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:22 am
What would it take to trade for Kevin Love? Obviously we'd have to move Lee somehow, which makes it difficult. But since lee is a top 15 offensive player someone would want him.

He's a top 7-8 player (interchangeable with Harden.)

We'd probably be a 4th to 5th seed with Kevin Love, maybe three depending on how the rest of the off season went.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:29 am
No, Jack can't get Lin's contract because Lin's contract was partially based on his age and the Linsanity stretch and also Jack isn't as marketable as Lin. I don't like this trade. I like the idea though, just don't want it. Harrington is bad news. First and foremost, they need to do everything they can to sign Jack and go from there. Whatever the cost is... do it.
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