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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:42 pm
Washington Wizards (24 - 43) @ Golden State Warriors (39 - 31)

Start time: 7:30 PM PST @ Oracle Arena
Local TV: CSN Bay Area
Nat TV: None

Probable starters for the Golden State Warriors:
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C - Andrew Bogut
PF - David Lee
SF - Harrison Barnes
SG - Klay Thompson
PG - Stephen Curry

Probable starters for the Washington Wizards:
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C - Emeka Okafor
PF - Nene
SF - Martell Webster
SG - Garrett Temple
PG - John Wall

Team leaders:
PPG - S. Curry (22.2) | J. Wall (15.6)
RPG - D. Lee (11.1) | E. Okafor (8.9)
APG - S. Curry (6.7) | J. Wall (7.5)
SPG - S. Curry (1.5) | J. Wall (1.4)
BPG - A. Bogut (1.8) | E. Okafor (1.1)
I've been a Warriors fan since they traded Chris Webber. Can you imagine how that's like....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:11 pm
Wall ejected, game over.
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Curry hurt
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:48 pm
Oh God. Oh no.

It didn't look that horrible to me, but Bob and Jim are sure succeeding in scaring the sh*t outta me. Let's hope he's back for LA on Monday.
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My heart sank when I saw it. He's probably going to be fine, but I now know how Bulls fans felt once Rose went down. Must have been devastating.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:50 pm
The look on his face while shooting those FTs said it all - frustration and disappointment. I doubt he'll be back for the Lakers game. I'm with Barnett - probably a week.

Curious what your reaction to Jackson saying Klay is our best defender, 32...

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Anyone who can provide an update on our best player?...
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JREED wrote:The look on his face while shooting those FTs said it all - frustration and disappointment. I doubt he'll be back for the Lakers game. I'm with Barnett - probably a week.

Curious what your reaction to Jackson saying Klay is our best defender, 32...

What else would he say? He's been putting Thompson on the tough assignments all year.

I'm not contesting that Jackson thinks Klay is his best defender, I'm contesting the results. Too many huge nights from swingmen primarily defended by Thompson. In my opinion, he's serviceable to decent... But I hit the breaks hard when people start acting like he's a stopper. Stoppers don't surrender 30 point nights to Marcus Thorton, JJ Reddick, and OJ Mayo.
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JREED wrote:The look on his face while shooting those FTs said it all - frustration and disappointment. I doubt he'll be back for the Lakers game. I'm with Barnett - probably a week.

Curious what your reaction to Jackson saying Klay is our best defender, 32...

What else would he say? He's been putting Thompson on the tough assignments all year.

I'm not contesting that Jackson thinks Klay is his best defender, I'm contesting the results. Too many huge nights from swingmen primarily defended by Thompson. In my opinion, he's serviceable to decent... But I hit the breaks hard when people start acting like he's a stopper. Stoppers don't surrender 30 point nights to Marcus Thorton, JJ Reddick, and OJ Mayo.



http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Klay vs James Harden. James Harden Shoots average of 30 percent vs Klay.

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Thorton shot 37 percent while Klay was on him and 55 percent when Klay was on the bench.

Some dudes have had good nights against Klay, admittedly. But he is more than decent or serviceable on defense. He is above average in every part of half court defense and he plays elite transition defense. You had to have notice his transition defense, it's pretty amazing.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:08 pm
John Wall told Klay: "Go to the basket [indecipherable] I'll knock your ass out" -John Wall

Klay said in response: "I AM going to the basket."
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:23 pm
AndreasRiis wrote:Anyone who can provide an update on our best player?...

Shalik to the rescue -- Steph's ok:

Stephen Curry on ankle: 'I'm fine'

"I'm fine," Curry, who scored 35 points against the Wizards on Saturday, told reporters after the game. "Don't worry about my ankle. It's just another episode. I'll get through it like I usually do. I've just got to get my treatment.

"But you have to be smart at this point of the season. Fighting through something when youre not ready, when you have bigger things coming down the stretch, you have to be smart. We know the Lakers are coming, and theyre right behind us and need that game."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/90916 ... ried-ankle
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JREED wrote:The look on his face while shooting those FTs said it all - frustration and disappointment. I doubt he'll be back for the Lakers game. I'm with Barnett - probably a week.

Curious what your reaction to Jackson saying Klay is our best defender, 32...

What else would he say? He's been putting Thompson on the tough assignments all year.

I'm not contesting that Jackson thinks Klay is his best defender, I'm contesting the results. Too many huge nights from swingmen primarily defended by Thompson. In my opinion, he's serviceable to decent... But I hit the breaks hard when people start acting like he's a stopper. Stoppers don't surrender 30 point nights to Marcus Thorton, JJ Reddick, and OJ Mayo.



http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Klay vs James Harden. James Harden Shoots average of 30 percent vs Klay.

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Thorton shot 37 percent while Klay was on him and 55 percent when Klay was on the bench.

Some dudes have had good nights against Klay, admittedly. But he is more than decent or serviceable on defense. He is above average in every part of half court defense and he plays elite transition defense. You had to have notice his transition defense, it's pretty amazing.

Not only his transition defense; his defense on the drive is pretty damn impressive, too. If you put a guy like Harden - or, last night, Wall - against Klay, he's not a bad option to lock-up drivers.

My gripe comes into play against spot-up shooters. I've notice Klay surrender the outside jumper as a default because he pretty much always tries to deny the drive. This technique works for Bogut, whose opponents don't typical feature much range, but I'd like to see Klay get a hand up in shooter's faces. So, you're right, he does well against guys that wanna drive; guys like Tony Allen, Shannon Brown, John Wall, Andre Iguodala, even Monta Ellis... But shooters tend to light him up...

Notice JJ Redick's increased percentages versus Klay:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Or OJ Mayo, who shot 58% on three's above the break against Klay:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Kobe Bryant played much better with Klay on the floor:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Joe Johnson lit him up, too. 50% overall against Klay, 50% for three against Klay:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Jamal Crawford averaged 22 with Klay on the bench. With Klay on the floor? 30 points on 52%:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

Danillo Gallinari was Klay's assignment with Jack taking most of Barnes' minutes:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... 3;season=r

To Klay's credit, he seems to have held Ray Allen to a pretty poor night... but most other spot-up shooters that I type in are torching Klay. In my opinion, when you're playing shooting guard, you need to be able to defend between the 3-point line and the paint. Klay gives up a lot of outside looks because he shadows so hard against the drive. It keeps penetrators at bay, but what about these guys just looking to bomb? The book on Thompson, thus far, is spot up because he won't contest. That's not exactly a defensive stopper, as a shooting guard. Jordan and Kobe got/get a hand in players' faces on the outside; Klay needs to do the same for me to regard him as a stopper. For now, he looks better suited (defensively) as a small forward than a shooting guard.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:06 pm
Those really, really good nights and those really, really bad nights can be written off as statistical chance. He has held elite scorer to poor nights and good scorers to big nights. That's why I just use synergy, because it's all encompassing of the entire season and Klay is very good in that regards.

I am not sure about the spot up thing, 32. The average points per possession on spot ups against him is .88 points per possession. That's pretty okay.

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