migya wrote:It has been readily known for the last three or four years that Monta was highly valued by Warriors fans only. Seemed like most fans of other teams and quite a number of nba analysts didn't think Monta was as good as his stats and I agreed and still do. I don't think the team would have gotten as much for Monta as Bogut and that was only because he was injured when traded for.

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migya wrote:It has been readily known for the last three or four years that Monta was highly valued by Warriors fans only. Seemed like most fans of other teams and quite a number of nba analysts didn't think Monta was as good as his stats and I agreed and still do. I don't think the team would have gotten as much for Monta as Bogut and that was only because he was injured when traded for.

Oh, I don't think Monta Ellis could net you anything better than Andrew Bogut. If Bogey were healthy, this would be thief in the night type sh*t.

But if Bogut can't play 5 continuous games anymore... I'd rather have dealt Monta and Udoh for Gortat, a trade exception, and Phoenix's 2014 pick. An injured Bogut is not an asset.

Or, rather, a chronically-injured Bogut is not an asset. If Andrew Bogut comes back 100% and has a miraculous recovery where he's suddenly able to play a full season and not crumble, then good trade. But if he's as fragile and brittle as he seems now, than this was a dud compensation for a tradeable asset.

Stairway Man wrote:

J1000 wrote:I'd been saying they should trade Monta for years. After the year they beat Dallas in the playoffs, it was clear to me, he's just not a winning ballplayer. I always wanted them to trade him while his value was sky high, with a pick or another player, for a quality big man. Of course that's easier said than done, as teams don't just let a good big man go. Now with the Bogut deal....I mean look, Bogut is not even playing, and the team is already better without Monta. I just don't think he's a winning ballplayer if he is one of the guys that the team focuses its play around. As more of a role player or backup I think he'd be most effective.

As for Bogut, yes it is very disappointing, as we all were told and expected him to be healthy for the beginning of the season. Now some doctors are saying it could take a whole year to recover. At this point I guess I have no choice but to be okay with that. The strange thing is that he is only under contract for one more year after this....so if he doesn't really get to play this year, or get back to his old form, then next year will be his big contract year.....and if he has a big year then, will the Warriors be able to afford him in free agency ? If he doesn't play that great they could re-sign him without breaking the bank. But if he plays really well he would command a big contract. Which I guess would make that last contract year the "do or die" year for them to make a playoff run. This is all speculation. Who knows, maybe he will be perfectly healthy for the last 25 games this year and lead the Warriors into the playoffs. That would be crazy. But realistically, it's starting to look more and more like it's going to take him a year to be 100%, if he ever will be.

When you say a year, do you mean a year from now or from the injury?

PAWNO wrote:Bump!!!

Does anyone have a injury update on Beergut's ankle?

We are rolling. Maybe being up 8 games from 500 means we are playing it safe and giving him a bit more rehab time.

8th ave wrote:
I've been tweeting our beat writers MTII and Matt Steinmetz but they haven't gotten back to me. I'm curious too. I'm putting the onus on you and migya to find out since you guys are aussies.