Lebron would play in Europe for $50 Million/year

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:17 am
beginning of the end of the salary cap?Source: LeBron would consider European offer of $50M a year or more
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine

Jay-Z and the New Jersey Nets? Mike D'Antoni and the New York Knicks?

Heck, the Cleveland Cavaliers' strongest competition for LeBron James' long-term services could be the deep-pocketed new kid on the block -- Europe.

A person close to James said Tuesday that the Cavaliers' superstar would strongly consider playing overseas if he was offered a salary of "around $50 million a year."

James' current contract expires after the 2010-2011 season, but he can opt out after the 2009-2010 season, and while several NBA teams are working to create salary cap space for his impending free agency, none could offer a contract beginning at even $20 million a year.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:52 am
Ohh god, what a f*cking joke...............if LeBron EVER took this, Id be done..............f*cking $50 mil a year!!!??? screw you you ridiculous greedy a*shole! :banghead: :roll:

The only reason this could even begin to happen, is because most of these European ball club owners are not there for the business, its just a hobby, as they sure arent going to make money compared to the salaries they throw out..........so they just basically give away there personal fortune purely for the love of the game.............great! but insane when you talk about a Euro team being able to more than double what any NBA team could offer the LeBron.

Im sure this is total BS though, given how Americans going to Europe to get paid is just the story of the hour right now..........."ohhhhhh!!! Lebrons gonna go to Europe!!! for 50 mil!!!..........." :roll:
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bigstrads wrote:Ohh god, what a f*cking joke...............if LeBron EVER took this, Id be done..............f*cking $50 mil a year!!!??? screw you you ridiculous greedy a*shole! :banghead: :roll:


First, it's just a ridiculous story (more like joke) because there's nothing else to talk about.



Second, for $50 million, I'd be a hooker for a year.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:15 am
Yeah - I have never understood how "free market" American sports fans all become socialists when it comes to salary caps for wealthy sports teams. If LA can pay an aging Beckham 50 million per year, no reason some wealthy Euro team could return the favor for the NBA's brightest rising star. Esp. relevant is the value of the Euro versus the dollar, making our stars "cheaper" over there. The salary cap will disappear once a few real stars head over there, and/or there will be some kind of alliance - merger between US and Europe ala the NBA/ABA, NFL/AFL. In both cases, it was the raiding of stars that caused the established league to cave.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:18 am
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bigstrads wrote:Ohh god, what a f*cking joke...............if LeBron EVER took this, Id be done..............f*cking $50 mil a year!!!??? screw you you ridiculous greedy a*shole! :banghead: :roll:


First, it's just a ridiculous story (more like joke) because there's nothing else to talk about.



Second, for $50 million, I'd be a hooker for a year.


I agree. I wouldn't fault anyone for doing this, not even LeBron.

That being said, LeBron wouldn't do it because he's a competitor, he wouldn't be happy unless he was playing against the best, which is here in the NBA.

People should be more worried about the mid level players, like Josh Childress who are never going to be stars over here and are never going to make that kind of money, but can go over there and be their version of Kobe and make more money than him. Those are the guys that will jump.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:27 am
All Im saying is that THIS will ruin OUR game.............will ruin the best and most exciting league in the world............it will ruin it.

In the case of Beckham, the guy was 32 years old and done with the fast paced top leagues of Europe............he was never that quick anyway, and he basically just became a set piece taker, with no other real contributions other than dead ball situations..........ie: a washed out star takes the money in an emerging market that is crying out for names.

In the case of LeBron, youd have the biggest player since Jordan (I wont count Kobe because of all the "other" stuff and because I hate him), in his prime!!! bolting simply because of the money, not because he cant hack it anymore.

I know all the crap about double standards and yeah I know if we were in there shows and you could double your already ridiculous paycheck, we would do it..............doesnt mean I have to like it and agree with it from my arm chair critics position. :wink:

Also, who knows? if TMC, Colt, Cap or I were in the NBA.............we may have abit of pride and loyalty, and want to stay where the respect and competition is............Im sure plenty of players have turned down a hell of alot of money to go to Europe or wherever, for those reasons.

But yeah, this isnt going to happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:07 am
bigstrads wrote:All Im saying is that THIS will ruin OUR game.............will ruin the best and most exciting league in the world............it will ruin it.

In the case of Beckham, the guy was 32 years old and done with the fast paced top leagues of Europe............he was never that quick anyway, and he basically just became a set piece taker, with no other real contributions other than dead ball situations..........ie: a washed out star takes the money in an emerging market that is crying out for names.

In the case of LeBron, youd have the biggest player since Jordan (I wont count Kobe because of all the "other" stuff and because I hate him), in his prime!!! bolting simply because of the money, not because he cant hack it anymore.

I know all the crap about double standards and yeah I know if we were in there shows and you could double your already ridiculous paycheck, we would do it..............doesnt mean I have to like it and agree with it from my arm chair critics position. :wink:

Also, who knows? if TMC, Colt, Cap or I were in the NBA.............we may have abit of pride and loyalty, and want to stay where the respect and competition is............Im sure plenty of players have turned down a hell of alot of money to go to Europe or wherever, for those reasons.

But yeah, this isnt going to happen.


i think ur missing the point bigs... the reason why the NBA is the most successful is because it was her first, and most our players are American. The game is becoming more international and LeBron has always said he wanted to be a global icon. It could very much happen. Kobe has been a world traveler as well, i wouldnt be surprise if he goes towards the end of his career. Lastly, AI has said that he might consider it next season as he is almost positive no NBA team will pay him what he deserves (Im paraphrasing it)

Now on a side note:
The thing is, for the most part, the NBA has far worse rules then any league i've seen in europe or college. That Stupid curve they have under the basket where u cant recieve a charge is absolutely absurd. Thank god the college game doesnt adapted to it. The NBA has become a joke with its lack of enabling physical contact while defending, which the slightest touch recieves a foul. I would love to see today's players take some elbows to the face or forearms being smacked around like their elders and see how they respond to it. Thats how sports are, physical. Not some entertainment crap we have now. Europe is still true to the game (for the most part)!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:36 am
First of and foremost, LeBron will gladly take the money.

From day one he has said that Money and Business come first before Basketball. That is why I never liked him. He wanted to be the first Billionaire Athlete (not sure if Jordan is). LeBron will go where the money is, even if that means going overseas. Being in the NBA limits his growth of marketability to mainly the US. But going international will lead to just that; international stardom. He would dominate the game, he would sell out thousands of stadium. He would sell out stadiums that are designed just to watch a Jumbotron of him.

Also, think about his agent. He doesn't give a rat's ass about loyalty, competition or national pride. He wants the chedda'! And he will push LeBron to get that money. And really, Nike will not drop him just because he went international, they will love him for it. Globalization is the key to great marketing.

As for the NBA and removing the salary cap, I can see them doing that. The only problem will be that it will hardly make a difference. C'mon, would any team in the NBA pay $11 mil/yr for Josh Childress? I think not. The Europe teams will over pay the players just because they can and we will still not be able to match.

And Stern will never, ever... evereverever, combine with another league unless he knows that he will be supreme ruler of all things. He loves the control and prestige that his position gives him. I'd think that he be more concerned with other things that trying to make guess appearances. That guy really loves the spotlight. That's besides the point.

LeBron will take the money, as will most role players and MLE players, just because of his nature and desire to reach the American dream, one that can be accomplished in another country (ironic ehh?).

If you look at it, why would he want to leave the Cavs? To get onto a better team? They have a real good squad on that team, they just haven't had the chemistry or at least another superstar-ish person.

He wants the moolah.

So yes, it is possible that he may leave for the Europe, probably after he gets a ring, maybe before.

Stern is a power-hungry little gray haired man.

Most role players and MLE guys could possibly take contracts overseas.

The NBA is a touchy-touchy game, only done so to protect the players from massive injuries.
Side Note: You think there are more injuries for people that try to avoid the contact or actually go through with it?

And the globalization of Basketball won't happen for awhile. Maybe, maybe not. It really depends on who takes over who.

Another side note on the physicality of the NBA. We get more injuries because they are running and jumping and landing on the hard, unforgiving floor, compared to grass and dirt. So they have to limit as much contact that will cause a player to go down hard.
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bigstrads wrote:All Im saying is that THIS will ruin OUR game.............will ruin the best and most exciting league in the world............it will ruin it.

In the case of Beckham, the guy was 32 years old and done with the fast paced top leagues of Europe............he was never that quick anyway, and he basically just became a set piece taker, with no other real contributions other than dead ball situations..........ie: a washed out star takes the money in an emerging market that is crying out for names.

In the case of LeBron, youd have the biggest player since Jordan (I wont count Kobe because of all the "other" stuff and because I hate him), in his prime!!! bolting simply because of the money, not because he cant hack it anymore.

I know all the crap about double standards and yeah I know if we were in there shows and you could double your already ridiculous paycheck, we would do it..............doesnt mean I have to like it and agree with it from my arm chair critics position. :wink:

Also, who knows? if TMC, Colt, Cap or I were in the NBA.............we may have abit of pride and loyalty, and want to stay where the respect and competition is............Im sure plenty of players have turned down a hell of alot of money to go to Europe or wherever, for those reasons.

But yeah, this isnt going to happen.


i think ur missing the point bigs... the reason why the NBA is the most successful is because it was her first, and most our players are American. The game is becoming more international and LeBron has always said he wanted to be a global icon. It could very much happen. Kobe has been a world traveler as well, i wouldnt be surprise if he goes towards the end of his career. Lastly, AI has said that he might consider it next season as he is almost positive no NBA team will pay him what he deserves (Im paraphrasing it)


Where in your post is any argument/counter to my comments?...............I didnt mention about why the NBA is what it is (although, how succesful was the NBA before a shrewd thinking lawyer took charge of it? who was/is hell bent on making every possible cent out of it)...........and how much more succesful has the league been since Euro's/Chinese/South Americans have come to the league? ergo, those countries basketball suffers but the fans follow the NBA instead, so if US stars start going over to Europe, then more people will follow those teams and less people following the NBA.


Not sure what your examples of players are supposed to mean but Kobe is only a "world traveller" because his Dad was playing in Italy when he was growing up.

AI.............well, youve said it right there, he is considering going to Europe BECAUSE OF THE MONEY! not because its the place to play and be respected the most.

I dont get what point Im missing?...............all Im saying is I dont agree with the "take whatever you can get" attitude that is essentially what is ruining our entire existance on this planet..............never has society been more selfish, evil, deceitful and down right greedy, and thus alienated, depressed and worthless (check the stats on rates of depression in the last 10 years)..........all this has come into the forefront of the majority of human thinking in the last 20 years or so, and it keeps on growing.

Thats the root of my point I suppose, a deeper meaning if you will, that things such as loyalty and pride are being negated by the need to amass as much ridiculous wealth as possible.............even the arguments for sports stars shelf life are abit silly, as if I was to make $100 mil over a 6 year period or whatever, then I would be set for life!..........and then some.

We are basically talking about people who live in the 0.0001% of the worlds earnings brackets, and as such do not have any kind of grasp on reality, not there fault of course but it is the simple truth that they do not need all the money they make, they could live like kings on a 10th of what they make.

Overall, all Im fricken saying is that Im all for a guy who is 35 years old and cannot keep up with the big boys anymore, facing being jobless, going over to Europe.............just not guys who are superstars and could contribute and be competitive for many years.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:33 am
It is a nice and interesting philosophical question you pose, Bigs. I know what side I would come down on, but that's an easy one. I have chosen jazz, which is the most demanding music a musician can play, but is not remotely the most popular and lucrative, so money is not a prime motivator for me. Past a point it all becomes play money, anyway.

Anyone with 10 million in the bank and VERY conservative investments, will never have to work another day in their life...if you have income of a million dollars a year, you have to spend 3000 dollars a day to burn through that, and anyone who needs more THINGS than that has an empty spiritual life they are trying to fill with possessions. Surveys consistently show that people making a million dollars a year report no more happiness than people making 50,000 a year, or as the Beatles said, Money can't buy you love. However, the grand American religions are fame and fortune, and we are trained from a very early age to be insatiable about both.

Lebron has already accrued more wealth than he will ever need to spend to be comfortable, so I would think and hope that he would choose to play with the best. If it turns out that the Euros start creating a competitive league (ala the AFL) I think we will see a landslide of players going over there if the money is better.

Brings up the classic philosophy 101 question that makes most of us want to vomit:

How much would you have to be paid to give Bill Gates a blow job, or is there no amount of money that would do it? Honest answers only.

For me, no amount would do it, since no amount of $ could regain lost self-respect.

No one is asking Lebron to blow anyone, but it does raise the question, how much is enough?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:52 am
I'd play on Mars for 50 mil.


Really this is more of a wake up call to the NBA than anything else. They've transformed the league more into a business than ever before and subsequently have forced their employees to think like businessmen. If you can ply your trade for 30 mil more than what you're being offered, you take it.

Daivd Beckham set the bar and it was only a matter of time before other leagues in other sports started to catch on. Jagr suiting up in Russia is another example of what is becoming a more global and transitive athletic market for all sports.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:47 pm
I dont understand the difference between 10 million a year and 50 million a year. U can get watever u want and more with a salary of 10 million a year, why would anyone need 40 million more.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:55 pm
sidenote - don't be nbacentric, there are tons of guys who think nba is a mimicry of basketball and a circus, not a sport.
i call them europocentric, but they are not worse, or better, than nbacentric.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:09 pm
jimbob631 wrote:I dont understand the difference between 10 million a year and 50 million a year. U can get watever u want and more with a salary of 10 million a year, why would anyone need 40 million more.


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