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Diaw and Barbosa On The Block..........Hmmmm.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:03 am
From what Chad said in one of the other awful trade threads............got me thinking again, and I like the idea of Diaw with us.

Also, can you imagine Monta and Barbosa together!!! wow........zoom! :mrgreen:

Anyway, I think Diaw could do some good stuff for us............the only draw back would be Nellie playing him at C most of the time, mind you.........maybe because hes already played there, ie: someone else thought of it and was innovative, he may not want to do it you know. :wink:

How about a resigned Pietrus and our 14th for Diaw? french man for french man..........probably not enough though...........maybe Al straight up for Diaw? Al makes slightly more than Diaw but it would be within the limits.

Credit to Chad for reminding me Id thought about this but not posted it. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:47 pm
If you think Phoenix would trade Diaw or Barbosa within the division your crazy. Especially for Pietrus and a pick.
I doubt they would even trade him to a western conference team, or at least a contender in the west.
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BDIDDY707 wrote:If you think Phoenix would trade Diaw or Barbosa within the division your crazy. Especially for Pietrus and a pick.
I doubt they would even trade him to a western conference team, or at least a contender in the west.


Hmm, didnt think of that............suppose its my turn to get shot down in the trades forum then. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:10 pm
I have never been a big fan of Diaw. I think he is just another soft Euro. I would rather trade for a Wilcox or Collsion.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:30 pm
Wilcox, yes...Collison, no.
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The Coooach wrote:I have never been a big fan of Diaw. I think he is just another soft Euro. I would rather trade for a Wilcox or Collsion.


I know what your saying Reg............I suppose I still cant get away from the way we play you know, especially with Nellie here for another year.

I suppose we need to think about the future and what the make up and style of our team is gonna be when Nellie is gone.

I of course want "that" big man as well, I just think that Diaw would be a good fit around good big men, Im definately not saying he should be playing C and PF minutes, although that is probably what would happen if he was here with Nellie.

Ohh and what Sleandres said, Wilcox definately..........Collison.........esshk.
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I admit that Collison's game is ugly. he doesn't look smooth and he is sort of a garbage man. But I think we need that type of guy. He is like a bigger versionof Matt Barnes. He looks frail but he is actually a tough guy who doesn't back down from anyone. He also is a guy who won't demand the ball and doesn't have to have it to be effective. I think collisonis the typ of blue-collar guy that every team needs. he could be our Tariauff, or Powe. If you look at it in that vein it should make a little more senseto you guys i hope. What do you think?
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The Coooach wrote:I admit that Collison's game is ugly. he doesn't look smooth and he is sort of a garbage man. But I think we need that type of guy. He is like a bigger versionof Matt Barnes. He looks frail but he is actually a tough guy who doesn't back down from anyone. He also is a guy who won't demand the ball and doesn't have to have it to be effective. I think collisonis the typ of blue-collar guy that every team needs. he could be our Tariauff, or Powe. If you look at it in that vein it should make a little more senseto you guys i hope. What do you think?


Makes sense, and you do need those guys around...........and we especially need those kind of guys to bring some graft to our game.

Its just the price he would come with, thats the kind of guy that does that dirty work and then gets a fat pay check because "you need those guys"........but doing what he and similar players do doesnt warrant the money they get (think Scalabrine too!)

I mean the guy earns 6 mil a year!!!.............if we could get him for a vets minimum, then Im down to have him has a garbage/energy guy............but not with that kind of price.

I also just dont like big men who primarily play inside but dont block many shots.........like Reggie Evans as well.
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i like the idea of trading our 14th pick for Barbosa... we need someone who can play the point, push the ball, shoot and back up Baron... Barbosa sounds like the right guy for the job.

He's 26 years old and averaged 15.6 ppg last year. He's one of the fastest players in the league and would fit nicely in Nellie's uptempo, catch and shoot system. He has room to improve and he's already a proven commodity unlike any of the Warriors Draft prospects.
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Mr.KC wrote:i like the idea of trading our 14th pick for Barbosa... we need someone who can play the point, push the ball, shoot and back up Baron... Barbosa sounds like the right guy for the job.

He's 26 years old and averaged 15.6 ppg last year. He's one of the fastest players in the league and would fit nicely in Nellie's uptempo, catch and shoot system. He has room to improve and he's already a proven commodity unlike any of the Warriors Draft prospects.


Only problem is that Barbosa is less of a PG than Monta is.............that guy is one of the most selfish players in the league, and as far as I see, has no PG abilities or even the will/desire to be one............he is basically a lesser skilled, diverse and lesser passing Monta.

It would be great to have him here...............but not as a PG, just a pure instant offense, off the bench, energy guy.
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bigstrads wrote:
Mr.KC wrote:i like the idea of trading our 14th pick for Barbosa... we need someone who can play the point, push the ball, shoot and back up Baron... Barbosa sounds like the right guy for the job.

He's 26 years old and averaged 15.6 ppg last year. He's one of the fastest players in the league and would fit nicely in Nellie's uptempo, catch and shoot system. He has room to improve and he's already a proven commodity unlike any of the Warriors Draft prospects.


Only problem is that Barbosa is less of a PG than Monta is.............that guy is one of the most selfish players in the league, and as far as I see, has no PG abilities or even the will/desire to be one............he is basically a lesser skilled, diverse and lesser passing Monta.

It would be great to have him here...............but not as a PG, just a pure instant offense, off the bench, energy guy.


he isnt a true pg but Barbosa can handle the ball, push the tempo and he doesnt turn the ball over all that often... Having another guy on our team who can handle the rock can only help our team. he would take a lot of pressure off Baron and Monta and I feel he has enough ball handling skills to help spell Baron .

at this point in time Im all for trading our 14th pick for Barbosa.

I also like the combo of Barbosa and Ellis... so Dynamic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:36 pm
We might as well trade our whole ****ing team for a bunch of 1,2 or 3's!!! Everyone here is sold on small ball will win us a championship!!! BD, Monta, Barbosa and who the **** to is gonna rebound and defend...

Nellie needs to get handed his walking papers now!!!
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J-Rich wrote:We might as well trade our whole ****ing team for a bunch of 1,2 or 3's!!! Everyone here is sold on small ball will win us a championship!!! BD, Monta, Barbosa and who the **** to is gonna rebound and defend...

Nellie needs to get handed his walking papers now!!!


Unfortunately, our team has a couple of weaknesses... we need a Big Man who can rebound and defend the paint and we also need a back up pg who can push the ball and hit an open J.
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BDIDDY707 wrote:If you think Phoenix would trade Diaw or Barbosa within the division your crazy. Especially for Pietrus and a pick.
I doubt they would even trade him to a western conference team, or at least a contender in the west.


my thoughts exactly. they probably wouldnt trade him in the same conference let alone the same division!

but yea, if phx was dumb enough to do it, you bet your arse i would want barbosa!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:25 pm
diaw sucks and he proved that this past season. he showed that his first season with phoenix was a fluke and that he is just like every other frenchman in the NBA except tony parker, which is just a filler who will be nothing more than a role player.

if we could get barbosa, i wouldnt mind...the only thing is he wouldnt be the solution to getting baron rest as he is a 3pt shooting monta that can defend better. he is quick, fast, and can score. as far as handling the ball, he's not a point guard. definitely would be a candidate for sixth man of the year with us tho.

i dont know why, but i still like the idea of getting duhon from free agency. as for our big man problem, trade harrington along with the 14th pick to get someone like mark blount, andray blatche, chris wilcox, or someone that is a pretty good rebounder/defender or rebounder/scorer.
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