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TMC's ProfileJayPat wrote:considering Camby is outproducing Kaman in every single category except scoring and %'s (in less minutes).
This was for this season only, too.
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 Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:17 am
This was for this season only, too.
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:50 pm
The comparison was for current season's stats. Camby is superior in those categories mentioned during this season (as well as the rest of his career).
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:04 am
If he gets an outside shot, Bynum could be the best of the bunch. Did you see him against Phoenix? He blew up, 28 points on 11-13, and the dude is still only 20! To Live is A Value Judgment - Albert Camus
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:32 am
Yeah, he was impressive. Even more considering his age. He has improved a lot from last year, and seems like he's got the better future of all those mentioned. The biggest difference, to me, is that he's started to believe in himself. Last year, he seemed a bit lost on the court... that has changed this year. He's, right now, the second best player on the Lakers (surpassing Odom). Somebody said in Pest's thread about Biedrins that Beans was clearly better than Bynum. That's ridiculous. And you know how much I like Beans. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:16 am
As I mentioned, and you can look at the stats that I provided, Camby barely beats Kaman in those categories and since Kaman has much better percentages and scores much more, he is doing better than Camby this season   migya make the ring fall on ya |
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:19 am
Bynum is doing amazing. I admit I thought he was never going to be anything and was just another overhyped draft pick out of high school but he has risen this season and if he hadn't, the Lakers would be much further down the standings migya make the ring fall on ya |
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:01 am
Keep in mind the kind of help both have. Camby is doing his part with Melo, AI and K-Mart (when he plays) in his team, so it's no wonder Kaman is scoring a lot more. I'd be shocked if not. If you put Camby on the Clips, he'd have an average of around 14 ppg (more or less). Still worse than Kaman's, but not by much. As for the rest of the stats, Camby beats Kaman but a small margin, but that's relative, and you realize so when you check the amount of minutes both play. Camby plays 5 minutes less per game. The difference would be a bigger if not. He would also score a bit more with 5 more minutes, although not much. Maybe 2 or 3 more points in his average. Oh, and Camby is a much better defender than Kaman. Although that doesn't appear on the stats... |
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:20 am
Now try comparing them to Patrick Ewing, David Robinson, and Shaquille O'Neal. Hell, an AVERAGE center from the 80's/90's (like Luc Longley, for instance) would be among the top big men in the league today. That's why so many people believe the centers are crap these days. They're getting their numbers... but only because no one is out there to stop them. The only legit, star center in the league right now is Dwight Howard... and look at what he's doing to the competition. Good centers today are either tall guys with athleticism or tall guys with outside shots. Very few can do both anymore. Amare, Tyson, Kaman, Biedrins, and Bynum have zero midrange. Yao and Brad are cupcakes. That leaves Camby... whose injured half the season anyway.  GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD   |
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:23 pm
That's why I said a pretty decent bunch without a real star...
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:38 am
Looking back to Marcus Camby...
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:40 am
Holy crap, ten blocks? How does that happen?
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:43 am
I bet he swatted Yi's shots around a little bit. Bogut is a little slow for Camby too. Still, an impressive feat to say the least.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:00 am
It usually happens when a certain player blocks ten shots taken by their rivals in the same game. 
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:49 am
Camby is very important to the Nugs and so is worth more than Kaman to me but it really can't be proved as Kaman is about the only bright spot (Maggette another) for the Clips but take him away and the Clips would be worse than Minnesota. I'd rather have Camby anyway but Kaman has outdone him
2 or 3 points in just 5 more minutes?!  Think again buddy, that's an amazing amount in just five minutes. He does play five minutes less and that will make him look better but not a whole lot better
I agree but statistically, Kaman is a very good defender himself. My whole point here is just to show how great Kaman has done, an improvement far better than most bigs I've seen in a long time migya make the ring fall on ya |
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