RobDIKUM wrote:migya wrote:warriorsstepup wrote:migya wrote:saintdee wrote:warriorsstepup wrote:saintdee wrote:Anyone read about the near rioting that went down in response.
Its sickening to see animals messing things up by burning cars and saying things like "We live a life of fear, and we want them to be afraid tonight."
Animals ? How would you react if your Mother, Father, Daughter, Sister, orbest friend, was shot dead in the back, what would be your reaction ? HuH ?
my first reaction wouldn't be to burn my neighbor's cars. and damage the properties of my local community that for sure. How are you getting justice for your loved one by hurting the communities? creating fear and panic isn't a good thing. For every police window you break thats money coming out of your taxes that goes into buying the police a new car.
That's exactly right. The only way to get theat cop that shot the boy back, is to target him specifically. That means finding out where he lives and doing things to make him pay, thos are uncivilised things but if you want to destoy something, destroy that person specifically. Fiding out where he lives and smashing his car, house, legs, arms, even killing him, is being specific to the person who stepped out of line.
There actually is another point of view. You can act like a country does towards a hostile group that lives in a neighbouring country and start targetting the group or organisation specifically, but in this case it means bashing or killing cops in general, to send a message that those actions are not acceptable. That is too extreme, as not all cops think the same and you really can't prove that all cops are given orders to harass blacks and/or hispanics.
Really a difficult situation if you want to hand out pay back for what happened. Best thing is to target the cop that did it directly and that requires some organisation, having a group of people that is sneaky about it all.
The most effective way is to disturb government events by protesting at such events about cops being abusive, that way it brings about awareness about the whole thing
Different world different perspectives, alot of people are sheltered in society and others face adversity on daily bases. If a person has never been in a position where cops have harassed, used force against them, have acquaintances that cops have affected in a negative way, it would be hard to understand the reason for the riots, and how its more of a protest than a crime.
The only way to accomplish anything is to smarten up about. Do it the smart way, really making a point but having little collateral damage.
I'm going to be very honest here, there is always a chance it could get me in trouble but I like you guys and we are open with each other. A few years ago there was a family on my parents' street that kept annoying a few of the neighbours. They had smashed some of the garden lights my parents had, we had not seen them but they were always roaming the streets, sometimes swearing at people and causing trouble. The police don't have the power to do anymore than just ask them to stop, so that avenue was a waste of time. One night I decided to take action, went over their fence with a few cans of petrol and put their grass, table and chairs and a couple of doors of one of their cars on fire. For the trouble these people had caused it was not excessive and predictably enough they started vulgarly abusing the surrounding neighbours and people demanded to the local council that that family be removed. The council only budged to do so when one of the neighbours cars got the windows smashed. Point is, I took action against the individuals who were causing the trouble only and they then dug themselves their onwn grave and were removed. You have to take action WHEN things go too far BUT be smart about it and be effective
Well, in this case, somebody lost a life, so it did go too far. But terrorizing your own neighborhood is not a solution. I try to have faith that things will work out, but if this BART cop doesn't go to prison, all hell will break loose and I can't blame people if they feel hopeless.
Point is, angry or not, be smart about it and make your mark on those responsible, government included, as they are to be held accountable for all goings on of their departments and affiliated workers. Doesn't mean assassinate a local politician, at least not yet, it takes a whole lot more to even be thinking of such a thing. If blacks and latinos are targeted more, the government must have to educate their police to not discriminate, as that will only get a backlash from the local society being targeted.
It runs a bit deeper than that. I don't mean to discriminate or act like I know it all, I'm just going by information on the internet and past news articles. It has been stated that alot of the trouble that exists in some american societies is mainly caused by some black and latino groups. If that is the case, police and others in society have an attitude that those ethnic groups are trouble makers more so than those that are not of those ethnic groups. It is not right to discriminate against ALL people of one ethnic gropu but it is nature to be more alert when you around someone who is similar as such to someone you have heard of that has caused trouble. This is a large part of police attitudes towards certain groups. It is the way it is and some innocent people get violated and harrassed because of this