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Rumour has it that the universe is no longer to be considered ... endless?
So what are we going to do with this thing?
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INCEST (Only a few examples)
1)- Lot and his daughters camp out in a cave for a while. The daughters get their "just and righteous" father drunk, and have sexual intercourse with him, and each conceives and bears a son (wouldn't you know it!). Just another wholesome family values Bible story. God did nothing to stop this incest! All resulting sons have god's favor as well!
19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
19:31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
19:33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
19:34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
19:35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
2)- Abram's (Abraham) wife (not the only one by the way) is his half sister!
20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
SEXUAL PERVERSION (As moral people would see it)
1)- Sarai is the first of a long line of barren women who were desperate for children. (In the Bible, it is the women who are barren, never the men.) She sends Abram into her handmaid, Hagar, so that she can "obtain children by her." Abram gladly complies. Notice at the end how Sarai is angry and "despises Hagar the serveant, who was following orders and was not at fault! This happened before god allowed Sarai to get pregnant with Abram, god could have done this earlier and avoided the"adultery" which he accepted!!!!
16:1 Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar.
16:2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.
16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
16:4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.
2)- Judah (the just and god favored man) has casual sex with a Canaanite woman which results in two sons, Er and Onan. 38:2-4
38:2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her.
3)- After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto thy brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10
38:8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
4)- Tamar (the widow of Er and Onan, who were killed by God) dresses up as a prostitute and Judah (her father-in-law) propositions her, saying: "Let me come in unto thee .... And he ... came in unto her, and she conceived by him." From this incestuous union, twins (38:27-28) were born (both were boys of course). One of these was Pharez -- an ancestor of Jesus (Lk.3:33). 38:13-18 (Again Judah, the righteous man of god, commits another act of sexual perversion as he picked up a prostitute, doesn't matter who it was it was a whore all the same. One wonders how many times this character picked up a whore. God doesn't punish him but kills the widow of his son who had sex with him)
38:13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep.
38:14 And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife.
38:15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face.
38:16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me?
38:17 And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it?
38:18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him.
JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF CRAP THAT WERE NOT CONDEMNED BY THE BIBLICAL GOD BUT ACTUALLY APPROVED!!!!
1)- These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. 11:4-6 (see 12:29-30)
11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:
11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.
Any individual that requires taking of life for anything, especially for their acceptance, is not perfect or all powerful but a fraud in need of counciling or death, if they do not change!
- God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows: Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 - 9
Some examples -
1:5 And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar
1:6 And he shall flay the burnt offering, and cut it into his pieces.
1:9 But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of "a sweet savour unto the LORD".
1:15 And the priest shall bring it unto the altar, and wring off his head, and burn it on the altar; and the blood thereof shall be wrung out at the side of the altar:
4:17 And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it seven times before the LORD, even before the vail.
7:1 Likewise this is the law of the trespass offering: it is most holy
7:2 In the place where they kill the burnt offering shall they kill the trespass offering: and the blood thereof shall he sprinkle round about upon the altar.
7:3 And he shall offer of it all the fat thereof; the rump, and the fat that covereth the inwards,
7:4 And the two kidneys, and the fat that is on them, which is by the flanks, and the caul that is above the liver, with the kidneys, it shall he take away:
THIS ONE TAKES THE CAKE:
7:30 His own hands shall bring the offerings of the LORD made by fire, the fat with the breast, it shall he bring, that the breast may be waved for a wave offering before the LORD. (7:30-36) Wave the fat and the breast for "a wave offering before the Lord."
God gives instructions for "wave offerings" and "heave offerings." He says these offerings are to be made perpetually "by a statute for ever." Have you made your heave offering today?
7:31 And the priest shall burn the fat upon the altar: but the breast shall be Aaron's and his sons'.
7:32 And the right shoulder shall ye give unto the priest for an heave offering of the sacrifices of your peace offerings.
7:33 He among the sons of Aaron, that offereth the blood of the peace offerings, and the fat, shall have the right shoulder for his part.
7:34 For the wave breast and the heave shoulder have I taken of the children of Israel from off the sacrifices of their peace offerings, and have given them unto Aaron the priest and unto his sons by a statute for ever from among the children of Israel.
Have you made your heave offering today?
migya make the ring fall on ya
I just research and go by facts and I am obviously not an admirer of those who mainpulate. lie and are fascist!!!!
migya make the ring fall on ya
I'm just showing how people are easily controoled and most people who folow the bible will tell you that the all mighty god never changed and that laws that come from this god have always been what they are and never changed because this god is unchangeable and infallible - What a crok!
That's all I'm saying - Look at the facts and then have a cleaer view. If you are religious, as long as you respect me and others, I will respect you and we can drink up and party on
migya make the ring fall on ya
I am agnostic. I believe there could be a supernatural entity or entities. I don't think that we can define it at the moment. I am budhist to some extent(except I don't believe in reincarnation or karma) but I don't believe that it's a religion. I think it's a philosophy. Philosophy directly translates to love of knowledge. I think there are philosophical parts of religion, and there are parts of religion that are legends. I have no problem with people believing what they want to believe. It is often what they were taught since birth. It does show a hole in the logical armor to jump headfirst into a faith that one has no knowledge exists. Then again, we only have one life and we should live it how we want. If believing in the supernatural, in lack of control, keeps you from being stressed then it's a good thing. If it leads you to start massacres (crusades, kkk, blood lible, jihads, etc) then it's a bad thing. More people have been killed in the name of jesus than any other man, but he was probably directly or indirectly the source of the source of more kind deeds than any other. I have no problem with people believing what they want to believe, as long as they don't impose their beliefs on to me.
"I have zero problem with anyone believing whatever they want"
"I have no problem with people believing what they want to believe"
I haven't read the other two pages, so maybe there was something else
You said it right!!!!
I've got a heap of facts about the old and new testaments that just don't add up and contradict eachother!
Look at this website and you will get many examples http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.html
Again you said it right!
Almost every war in history has been brought on by those that claim to be peaceful and have the right faith! The ones that mind their own busines and don't try to put their beliefs on others are always the ones that are the victims!
migya make the ring fall on ya
On the subject of everyone decending from Adam and Eve - I am a geneticist but it doesn't take a scientific degree to understand that if Eve was Adam's rib, she was an exact clone of Adam but with two X chromosomes as opposed to Adam having X and Y chromosomes.
POINT = No way can you get so much diversity (Black race, white race, arab race and asian race to keep it very simple) from two exact clones!
THINK ABOUT THAT ONE
migya make the ring fall on ya
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