TMC wrote:I'm not going to add anything to this thread. Talking about religion only serves for trouble. When someone believes something that gets in conflict with other people's beliefs, there's trouble without exception, and usually it ends pretty bad. That will never change.
So I just try to respect as much as I can other people beliefs, and try not to argue about anything as personal as that. It's pointless.
breezer_79 wrote:Nothing makes me quite so irate as conversations about religion....except maybe politics. 32 has said it, and I think I'll repeat it. People have a right to believe whatever they want without being pushed to see the "error" of their ways.
Anyways, sorry for the crappy psychobabble.
I think that the things that Everyone has said so far are Excellent
I think it's important what people think
There are results that individuals among us achieve, some better than others. There are results that some are able to achieve in groups.
Some things have not historically worked so well.
Classic examples in conversation that most people are familiar with, in their own experience and in what they've heard constantly from others ... can't really talk about .... TALK ABOUT
... politics and religion.
A part of the reason for that is relatively obvious.
If someone accidentally stumbled on ... or by some other means somehow was able to pronounce what actually was, if there is, truth ...
someone else in seemingly the smallest group ... would want or need to KILL HIM ... or HER, of course.
Thinking ... "That will never change"
Is something that may make things more difficult.
If a person ... and certainly if "people" ... one at a time, over and over again, begin from this place ... I would suggest, wonder, ASK, etc. if there isn't a TRUTH
that it will be less probable to get to a different place? I'm not sure it matters What The Subject Is.
, I've seen it where people "threw rocks" at other people over how they made their free throws ô¿~
If a human being, if human beings, in their mind, begin and end with this kind of premise ... they will be less likely to achieve theirs and/or other peoples goals ... as effectively as they could.
I "think" thats demonstratable.
And is demonstrated .. All The Time
being pushed to see the "error" of their ways ...
Is also, to my way of thinking, a very hard part.
Few of us, even the "best" of us, do this very well, very often AND it's these RESULTS, when we concentrate on the error of our ways, that don't come out so well. Actually ... my philosophy
, if we can call it that for the moment, would suggest that noone SHOULD
spend TOO MUCH TIME
thinking on our ERRORS
.. our WEAKNESSES
... on the errors of our ways
The problem when we concentrate on our errors is ?
SoCô¿ôL Bob continually says the key to success is to have a positive vision of things working the way you would like them to work, the way you think they oughta work, the way you think they will come out the best, the way you think God is suggesting you to think. One way may be
better than others. THE KEY
for most of US includes STAY POSITIVE
Try doing that regularly ... about YOURSELF and OTHERS.
A negative becomes just one more thing crying out for a Positive Solution
I think it works, will work better, when more people "try" it more often.
Have you noticed ? That I think that?