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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:37 am
Nope. What part is he from?

Anyone heard of Big L? All time great on the mic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:49 am
The coup is based in oakland. Their lyrics are pretty damned impressive:

Well I hope you testify that it was worth your waitin
On the turf debatin how to get it percolatin
He workin you while we happy just to work a day
But I'ma slap him 'til my blood starts circulatin
Do you checks have elasticity?
Did they cut off yo' 'lectricity?
Did you scream and yell explicitly?
Force the boss into complicity
I'm a white chalk stencil but I push a pencil
Rollin dope fiend rentals through your residential
Broke as ****, eatin lentils with no utensil
Finna teach pimp class with a hoe credential
They own sweats shops, pet cops and fields of cola
Murder babies with they molars on the areola
Control the Pope, Dali Lama, Holy Rollers, and the Ayatollah
Bump this rollin in your bucket or your new Corolla
Well you might catch me on the scenic route, with my penis out
Yellin, Twamps for the executives with the meanest mouth!
Wanna know what this demeanor's bout? City tried to clean us out
Green is clout, shut 'em down they ain't never seen a drought

He not only has an ungodly number of syllables rhyming for several lines in a row and within the same line, but they're clever as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:23 am
tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:Anybody heard The Coup?


:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Well, he was smilin' like a vulture as he rolled up the horticulture
Ignited it, and said, "I hope the vapors don't insult ya"
What I replied denied, but he mixin weed and hop
His head was noddin' up and down like he agreed a lot
Bored, said, "We need a plot," I comply, "Let's leave the spot"
Hopped in the Granada, he's impressed by the beat I got
His name is "hay-zoos" but his pimp name is "gee-zus"
Slapped a hoe to pieces with his plastic prosthesis
"Nigga don't you know that I'm your daddy?" said he
This is true, plus he schooled me for my mackin' degree
"Never plea, try not to flee, make niggaz pee when you stick around"
This man my momma had found taught me to put it down
I press the gas to the ground to show that I'm a hound
Makin' sho' that get rubber sound is heard throughout the town
Thirty years ago, Jesus could pull a hoe quick
But now he 50 and his belly hangs lower than his dick
Philosophy that he spit stuck in my memory chips
And now he puttin' in a disk of Gladys Knight and the Pips
Then that sh*t starts to skip, he said, "Somebody musta scratch it"
Put the 40 to his lips and poured the contents down the hatchet
Well since my adolescense, cause of his pimp lessons
smack my woman in the dental just for askin' silly questions
Relationship reduction to either rock the box or suction
Ain't got no close potnahs, socially I cain't function
From the pen he would scribe, on how to survive:
"Don't be Microsoft, be Macintosh with a Hard Drive"
Used to tell me all the time to keep a bitch broke
Did I mention that my momma was his number one hoe?
Clunked the 40 on the flo' and placed his palm on the dash
and wheezed out, "C'mon man, make this motherfuker mash!"
Ain't gon' mash too fast, cause my tags ain't right
Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada last night



Boots is extremely underrated. One of my faves, too.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:50 am
Rap lost its soul when Pac died. Now all rappers are commerical sluts, some less than others.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:04 pm
I really like Nas' beat-less end to his "Hip-Hop Is Dead" album... Song's called "Hope":

Ghetto niggaz struttin'
With nothin' but dreams
and queens
broke
mack-10's, you can smell the pcp smoke
mele mel told it real in the music he wrote
those were the days i remember
we used to be close, then i was nine, coldest winter i remember
was slippin' in december, two feet of snow
yeah, that's the east coast,
that black ice
symbolized the rap life
it was slick and smooth
i understood i had to come from the hood
doin' the pee wee herman, the smurf
before them phones chirped
the block's drugs flowin', didn't have your own work
you had to have somebody else's,
a small chrome on your pelvis
starter jacket, blue georgetown or green celtic
your girl's too expensive, she wants shellfish
red lobster was poppin', standin' on that line forever
i wish somebody would step on my bally leather's
now it's whatever...
hip-hop's forever
kept my radio on 98 or bls
had a pre-pubescent lyric gift but niggaz never hear me spit
my little brother tried to warn 'em, i was a tornado comin'
he knew from inside, like the eye of a storm
and told my pops about it
he gave us tickets to that wild style flick
double trouble, retarded, we was the proudest
i never had a summer job
sweepin' leaves, socks to my knees
homemade shorts cutoff, lee's
i ain't work a day in my life
wipin' away eraser of the paper man
i'm just tryin' to say it right
big radio, tape slowin' down
lower the lights go,
battery dead, i gotta freeze 'em 'til they ice cold
in the freezer later,
i'm starin' at the speaker
sunk in them 808's deeper,
cleanin' my sneakers
wit the bristles of a toothbrush, soap and water
i let the shoe strings soak in water...


Just being real with it for a minute. No big rims, no gun shots, no talk about him or her, or money, or nothing. Just bringing it back right. That's what hip-hop SHOULD be about.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:46 pm
32 wrote:I really like Nas' beat-less end to his "Hip-Hop Is Dead" album... Song's called "Hope":

Just being real with it for a minute. No big rims, no gun shots, no talk about him or her, or money, or nothing. Just bringing it back right. That's what hip-hop SHOULD be about.


Yea this is Hip Hop. Ive always gave Nas respect, but he hasnt been around for awhile, or better yet he's not on the radio or MTV. His beef with Jay Z was funky.

I liked Lyfe Jennings, but he sold out on his second CD. "Stick up boy", "Must be Nice" were real, but i guess hes more R&B.

Outkast got weird for reals this time.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:10 pm
Soon as Nas came out and dropped Halftime & I saw the video I knew he was going to blow up, straight Hip Hop, Just like when I saw Biggie perform at the Gavin in SF before he had dropped anything and I had no idea who he was but I left like dam that fat dude was flowing...R.I.P.
"Halftime"

(Right..) (Right..)
Check me out y'all, Nasty Nas in your area
About to cause mass hysteria

[Nas]
Before a blunt, I take out my fronts
Then I start to front, matter of fact, I be on a manhunt
You couldn't catch me in the streets without a ton of reefer
That's like Malcolm X, catchin the Jungle Fever
King poetic, too much flavor, I'm major
Atlanta ain't Brave-r, I'll pull a number like a pager
Cause I'm am ace when I face the bass
40-side is the place that is giving me grace
Now wait, another dose and you might be dead
And I'm a Nike head, I wear chains that excite the feds
And ain't a damn thing gonna change
I'ma performer (?) show the mic warmer was born to gain
Nas, why did you do it?
You know you got the mad fat fluid when you rhyme, it's halftime

(Right..) It's halftime
(Right..) Aiyyo it's halftime
(Right..) It's halftime
(Right..) Yeah, it's about halftime
This is how it feel, check it out, how it feel

[Nas]
It's like that, you know it's like that
I got it hemmed, now you never get the mic back
When I attack, there ain't an army that could strike back
So I react never calmly on a hype track
I set it off with my own rhyme
Cause I'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time
I'm max like cassettes, I flex like sex
in your stereo sets, Nas will catch wreck
I used to hustle, now all I do is relax and strive
When I was young, I was a fan of the Jackson 5
I drop jewels, wear jewels, hope to never run it
With more kicks than a baby in a mother's stomach
Nasty Nas has to rise cause I'm wise
This is exercise 'til the microphone dies
Back in eighty-three I was an MC sparking
But I was too scared to grab the mic's in the park and
kick my little raps cause I thought n****z wouldn't understand
And now in every jam I'm the fuckin man
I rap in front of more n****z than in the slave ships
I used to watch C.H.I.P.S., now I load glock clips
I got to have it, I miss Mr. Magic
Versatile, my style switches like a ******
But not bisexual, I'm an intellectual
Of rap, I'm a professional and that's no question, yo
These are the lyrics of the man, you can't near it, understand
Cuz in the streets, I'm well known like the number man
In my place wit the bass and format
Explore rap, and tell me Nas ain't all that
And next time I rhyme, I be foul
Whenever I freestyle I see trial n****z say I'm wow
I hate a rhymebiter's rhyme
Stay tuned, Nas, soon the real rap comes at halftime

Another heated early Nas classic

"It Ain't Hard To Tell"

It ain't hard to tell, I excel, then prevail
The mic is contacted, I attract clientele
My mic check is life or death, breathin a sniper's breath
I exhale the yellow smoke of buddha through righteous steps
Deep like The Shinin', sparkle like a diamond
Sneak a uzi on the island in my army jacket linin
Hit the Earth like a comet, invasion
Nas is like the Afrocentric Asian, half-man, half-amazin
Cause in my physical, I can express through song
Delete stress like Motrin, then extend strong
I drank Moet with Medusa, give her shotguns in hell
From the spliff that I lift and inhale, it ain't hard to tell

The buddha monk's in your trunk, turn the bass up
Not stories by Aesop, place your loot up, parties I shoot up
Nas, I analyze, drop a jew-el, inhale from the L
School a fool well, you feel it like braille
It ain't hard to tell, I kick a skill like Shaquille holds a pill
Vocabulary spills I'm +Ill+
plus +Matic+, I freak beats slam it like Iron Shiek
Jam like a tech with correct techniques
So analyze me, surprise me, but can't magmatize me
Scannin while you're plannin ways to sabotage me
I leave em froze like her-on in your nose
Nas'll rock well, it ain't hard to tell

This rhythmatic explosion, is what your frame of mind has chosen
I'll leave your brain stimulated, n****z is frozen
Speak with criminal slang, begin like a violin
End like Leviathan, it's deep well let me try again
Wisdom be leakin out my grapefruit troop
I dominate break loops, givin mics men-e-straul cycles
Street's disciple, I rock beats that's mega trifle
And groovy but smoother than moves by Villanova
You're still a soldier, I'm like Sly Stone in Cobra
Packin like a rasta in the weed spot
Vocals'll squeeze glocks, MC's eavesdrop
Though they need not to sneak
My poetry's deep, I never fell
Nas's raps should be locked in a cell
It ain't hard to tell
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:48 pm
I thought Nas was less than impressing before. But his "Hip-Hop is Dead" album really impressed me. I think it's because of all that beef with 50 cent was full of crap. Fat Joe, Ja Rule, Jadakiss, and Nas? You've got to be kiddin' me. Which is why I think three out of the five are horrible artists. Fat Joe, Ja Rule, and 50 are just terrible, I hate their music. Though the "In Da Club" joint was wayyyy better club slap than Joe's "Lean Back."

Other than that, Jada is decent, Nas is good. I'm not a fan of New York rap but they have some talent.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:16 am
xbaywarrior wrote:I'm not a fan of New York rap but they have some talent.


Yep, only NY rap I like comes from Masta Ace (retired... well, sort of), J-Live, Rakim and... well, that's all. :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:27 am
xbaywarrior wrote:I thought Nas was less than impressing before. But his "Hip-Hop is Dead" album really impressed me.

I dunno... I was feeling Illmatic.

Stillmatic kinda sounded like one of those has-been albums... thats when I thought Nas fell off... but Hip Hop is Dead totally proved me wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:35 am
Money wrote:Rap lost its soul when Pac died. Now all rappers are commerical sluts, some less than others.

that's why people listen to underground
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:08 pm
TMC wrote:
xbaywarrior wrote:I'm not a fan of New York rap but they have some talent.


Yep, only NY rap I like comes from Masta Ace (retired... well, sort of), J-Live, Rakim and... well, that's all. :wink:


Most NY rap is a load of horse sh*t honestly. Sorry to any fans, but you can't possibly think those well known artists are actually good. The underground has much more talent than today's NY artists. Immortal Technique is the only alive NY artist I listen to.

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xbaywarrior wrote:I thought Nas was less than impressing before. But his "Hip-Hop is Dead" album really impressed me.


I dunno... I was feeling Illmatic.

Stillmatic kinda sounded like one of those has-been albums... thats when I thought Nas fell off... but Hip Hop is Dead totally proved me wrong.


Well the thing is with Nas, he's one of those artist that don't really go with today's flow like sex and money. He's more into rapping about what he feels like doing in my opinion.

Anyway, are you a fan of that crunk music in the dirrtay, 32?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:09 am
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32 wrote:
xbaywarrior wrote:I thought Nas was less than impressing before. But his "Hip-Hop is Dead" album really impressed me.


I dunno... I was feeling Illmatic.

Stillmatic kinda sounded like one of those has-been albums... thats when I thought Nas fell off... but Hip Hop is Dead totally proved me wrong.


Well the thing is with Nas, he's one of those artist that don't really go with today's flow like sex and money. He's more into rapping about what he feels like doing in my opinion.

Anyway, are you a fan of that crunk music in the dirrtay, 32?

I'm not mad at it. Seems like every song I hear with Lil' Wayne in it these days, I end up cranking ("Stuntin' Like My Daddy, Make It Rain, ect).

I thought Chamillionaire's "Sound of Revenge" record was album of the year in '05 (yes, Bay Area, above "Ghetto Report Card"). I'm not a huge Lil' Jon fan (which is why I kinda wrote off the south 5 years back, when he was repping it), but everything else I've heard seems pretty good.

But, again, southern rap's all bling-bling rap, for the most part. But it's catchy, which is why I'm not mad at it. Would I put them in the same league as guys like Nas? Nah, they aren't lyrical enough for me (yeah, they rhyme... but it's not anything important: "I'ma show 'em how to get the club cruuuuunk / Give 'em sumthin' that'll rattle their truuuunk" :roll: ).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:20 am
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xbaywarrior wrote:Anyway, are you a fan of that crunk music in the dirrtay, 32?

I'm not mad at it. Seems like every song I hear with Lil' Wayne in it these days, I end up cranking ("Stuntin' Like My Daddy, Make It Rain, ect).

I thought Chamillionaire's "Sound of Revenge" record was album of the year in '05 (yes, Bay Area, above "Ghetto Report Card"). I'm not a huge Lil' Jon fan (which is why I kinda wrote off the south 5 years back, when he was repping it), but everything else I've heard seems pretty good.

But, again, southern rap's all bling-bling rap, for the most part. But it's catchy, which is why I'm not mad at it. Would I put them in the same league as guys like Nas? Nah, they aren't lyrical enough for me (yeah, they rhyme... but it's not anything important: "I'ma show 'em how to get the club cruuuuunk / Give 'em sumthin' that'll rattle their truuuunk" :roll: ).


You're forgetting the biggest artist of the last 12 centuries...

I'M MIKE JONES
WHO...MIKE JONES
WHO...MIKE JONES, JONES


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I like some dirrty... but some of those guys sound retarted. Actually, they probably are...
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