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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:54 pm
We know the W’s can’t make any trade for months, and won’t make trades until they are bought. I would guess that the one potential buyer who could get it done in a relative hurry would be Ellison, as opposed to some Russian guy they would have to financially investigate. So the chances of trades are slim. Hey, but what the hell, that’s what the “Trades” topic is all about. At this point almost any good topics on this board are speculative. If we are proposing a trade. I think it‘s important a to assess what he have that someone else might want..

I think there are there are a handful of Warrior players that other teams will want to pay up for.
1) Curry, he's the rage, the most valued rookie at a premiere position.
2)Monta, explosive marquis player for a team that needs a thrill. Which is a few teams. Sometimes you got to bring in a good scorer.
3) Randolph--Despite his injury, he has attracted some national interest to the point that there's a general curiosity about " just what can this guy do?."
4) Morrow---In a sign and trade, Partly because he's so cheap. A lot of teams need a 3 point shooter.

I think that's about it. Az and Wright have diminished their value by injuries. Turiaf , CJ might be a throw in. Vlad’s got a terrible combination, bad season and bad contract.
Then there's the guys that we'd like to get rid of but, but everyone will pay down for.
Maggs--It's the long term contract at the worst possible time.
Beans-Definitely selling low. Someone might feel a change of venue might be just what is needed for him to get his game back. Some teams will just want a solid rebounder, but definitely at a bargain price.

I'm of the mind of keeping Curry and Randolph. If 2 major trades could come out of this pool of talent. It would be a trade :
1) involving my best tradable player ( Monta ) and maybe a draft pick, probably not #1 or #2 though, and Morrow. Or:
2). Trying to move AB, ( but not without getting a big.) or Maggette and his contract. Since I'm stingy about Curry and Randolph, the only real enticement I think I could offer would be Morrow and /or a draft pick. To any possible interested teams, after taking on the big contracts of Beans and Maggs. Morrow would go down like water after a peanut butter sandwich.
Who do you guys think are most valuable trade pieces are?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:43 pm
I really think this is covered in a couple of other threads, but I'll respond here as well.

I believe that the injuries to many players this season has allowed Monta and Maggette to raise their value by a fair bit. Monta could definately be traded for a great player, a great big if the team can't get him through another trade. There are teams that are in need of talent and a great scorer and Monta is that, so some GMs would offer quite big for him. Maggette has to be traded this offseason I think or it will be harder after that, because I don't think he'll be as good again. Couple him with a player like Morrow or Williams and you can get a very good player in return.

AB has to go if another Center is attained, so preferably he would go in a trade for that star Center. Something like coupling him with the lottery pick for that great Center would be the best way to get rid of him
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:40 pm
AB has to go if another Center is attained, so preferably he would go in a trade for that star Center. Something like coupling him with the lottery pick for that great Center would be the best way to get rid of him.


All right, Migya. Indulge me just for fun, As you can tell from what I've posted, Though I like Az and Wright for example, I don't think they will get much in trade value.
Though I know there are other centers you would prefer, I know you like Al Jefferson. If he is a guy you'd trade Beans for. Obviously straight up they'd never go for it. Would you trade Beans with our #1 or #2 pick?

I think the very minimum they would ever take for Jefferson would be Beans, Morrow and a 3-4 pick. Even though I doubt it because they already have 5 picks.
Could that trade work for you?

What about Jefferson and Sessions for Beans and Maggs.?
What about Monta and Morrow sign and trade for Jefferson?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:19 pm
War Years wrote:
AB has to go if another Center is attained, so preferably he would go in a trade for that star Center. Something like coupling him with the lottery pick for that great Center would be the best way to get rid of him.


All right, Migya. Indulge me just for fun, As you can tell from what I've posted, Though I like Az and Wright for example, I don't think they will get much in trade value.
Though I know there are other centers you would prefer, I know you like Al Jefferson. If he is a guy you'd trade Beans for. Obviously straight up they'd never go for it. Would you trade Beans with our #1 or #2 pick?

I think the very minimum they would ever take for Jefferson would be Beans, Morrow and a 3-4 pick. Even though I doubt it because they already have 5 picks.
Could that trade work for you?

What about Jefferson and Sessions for Beans and Maggs.?
What about Monta and Morrow sign and trade for Jefferson?



The TWolves have tried to trade AJefferson already and I'd read that Love and AJeff have not got along a few times, true or false I don't know. They obviously want to keep Love and get rid of AJefferson, so I think AB and the lottery pick would be enough. If not, no deal!

AJeff and Sessions for AB and Maggette I'd do, though I think they'd be getting more than we get, by not by much and I see getting rid of Maggette as a plus right there. I'd do that trade personally.

I wouldn't do your second trade, unless we can trade AB in another trade in a package for another very good player. AB has to go if the team gets another good Center
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:29 pm
War, I think you pretty much hit it on the head. The only assets we have that have value around the league are:

Curry - duh
Monta - although I dont think as much as people around here think
Randolph - for the potential like you mentioned

and our #1 draft pick.

That is pretty much it. We have other pieces that could complete a package in a team acquiring one of the above, but nothing outside of these 4 will fetch anything considerable.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:42 pm
I get it, I did mention 2 trades with #1 and #2 and a second with #3 and #4 because I think the #1 #2 picks are seen as a category of their own. I have liitle doubt Wall and Turner will be the top 2 picks. But what you're saying is that it would be Beans and a high draft pick, whatever pick that would be.
I agree with you that the T's are probably more set on trading Jefferson, despite Love's recent problems and his drop of performance.-Drat!, but who could blame them?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:04 pm
War Years wrote:I get it, I did mention 2 trades with #1 and #2 and a second with #3 and #4 because I think the #1 #2 picks are seen as a category of their own. I have liitle doubt Wall and Turner will be the top 2 picks. But what you're saying is that it would be Beans and a high draft pick, whatever pick that would be.
I agree with you that the T's are probably more set on trading Jefferson, despite Love's recent problems and his drop of performance.-Drat!, but who could blame them?



Yea, it'd have to be AB and the lottery pick to get rid of AB and get either Love or AJefferson. Think about it, AB is proven in what he can do, but since he had an awful season, not just with being injured but when he did play, his value is less, though he does have value being a Center and being able to get a double double average for the money he gets.

If we got a top 2 pick, I'd look to get more off the TWolves or whatever team we try to trade with, like trying to get CBrewer as well as either Love or AJeff for AB and the top 2 pick. I just think that Wall has so much value that teams would throw their best players to get him, especially losing teams. Getting AJeff and CBrewer would give us a great Center and very good SG/SF that is always improving and is a very good defender, though not heralded much
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bada wrote:War, I think you pretty much hit it on the head. The only assets we have that have value around the league are:

Curry - duh
Monta - although I dont think as much as people around here think
Randolph - for the potential like you mentioned

and our #1 draft pick.

That is pretty much it. We have other pieces that could complete a package in a team acquiring one of the above, but nothing outside of these 4 will fetch anything considerable.


I have to agree with this as well. The one thing I'd add is that various Warriors that you can add to a package deal will have much higher or lower value depending on the trading team in question. For instance...

A team in need of a backup center and also wanting a star player is going to covet Biedrins + Draft Pick more than Mags + Draft Pick. A contending team that wants to make a move and needs a good scorer to come off the bench would probably want Mags + Draft Pick a lot more. A team in need of an off the bench 3 point specialist would be more interested in Morrow.

So the talent you mentioned Curry/Monta/Randolph/DraftPick is our trade bait, but...

Mags
Biedrins
Morrow
Azu

...can all hold varying degrees of value in a trade.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:33 pm
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bada wrote:War, I think you pretty much hit it on the head. The only assets we have that have value around the league are:

Curry - duh
Monta - although I dont think as much as people around here think
Randolph - for the potential like you mentioned

and our #1 draft pick.

That is pretty much it. We have other pieces that could complete a package in a team acquiring one of the above, but nothing outside of these 4 will fetch anything considerable.


I have to agree with this as well. The one thing I'd add is that various Warriors that you can add to a package deal will have much higher or lower value depending on the trading team in question. For instance...

A team in need of a backup center and also wanting a star player is going to covet Biedrins + Draft Pick more than Mags + Draft Pick. A contending team that wants to make a move and needs a good scorer to come off the bench would probably want Mags + Draft Pick a lot more. A team in need of an off the bench 3 point specialist would be more interested in Morrow.

So the talent you mentioned Curry/Monta/Randolph/DraftPick is our trade bait, but...

Mags
Biedrins
Morrow
Azu

...can all hold varying degrees of value in a trade.



That's obviously the truth and if trading for a Center, that center would have to be replaced, so I assume AB then has would have higher value than any other player on the team besides Curry, AR and Monta
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