Garnett nixes trade to the Celts

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:39 pm
Appears Minny and the Celts agreed in principle for a KG trade but he nixed it because he does not want to play there. It is rumored that the trade was Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Wally Szerbiak, Sebastian Telfair and the 5th pick in the draft for KG and Troy Hudson.

I understand wanting to trade KG to the East but that trade sucks for them. I mean Al is big but the rest of the guys are dudes you dont even want on your roster and who knows what you end up getting with the 5th pick. McHale is a moron.

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The Celtics were offering quite alot for Garnett. Al Jefferson is going to be a star, Wally is a very good shooter and scorer and Telfair could be alright or not. The #5 pick would have been where the TWolves would have scored big because that would have given them the #5 and #7 in this draft and with that, they could have a deep team. KG would have been playing with Pierce, a real superstar, for the first time in his career and wouldn't have to carry the load as much. Gerald Green could get real good soon as well so Garnett may be being a little short sited. From that article, sounds like if he isn't traded to Phoenix, he will opt out of his contract after next season and go where he wants anyway so likely the TWolves will lose him for nothing. They should have traded him one or two seasons ago, now they face being the worst team in the nba after next season. Maybe they can do a trade with Bulls, getting Tyrus and either Deng or Gordon and a future 1st rounder and consider themselves lucky
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:33 pm
that would have been a terrible trade for the wolves.. jefferson will never be an all-star, cap relief ratliff?, zerbiak? yet to do anything telfair? and a pick,that is just terrible, if that trade went down it would have been a steal for the celts. that is garbage. the dubs could offer wayy more in richardson, maybe ellis and a pick
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ChronicallyInclined wrote:that would have been a terrible trade for the wolves.. jefferson will never be an all-star, cap relief ratliff?, zerbiak? yet to do anything telfair? and a pick,that is just terrible, if that trade went down it would have been a steal for the celts. that is garbage. the dubs could offer wayy more in richardson, maybe ellis and a pick


Agree, and with Al Harrington, to boot. McHale should be calling Mullin right about now. I bet KG digs the Bay and would love to play next to Baron and this team.

And **** Wallace Szhebiath. Not after he talked **** about the Dubs a few years back.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:54 am
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ChronicallyInclined wrote:that would have been a terrible trade for the wolves.. jefferson will never be an all-star, cap relief ratliff?, zerbiak? yet to do anything telfair? and a pick,that is just terrible, if that trade went down it would have been a steal for the celts. that is garbage. the dubs could offer wayy more in richardson, maybe ellis and a pick


Agree, and with Al Harrington, to boot. McHale should be calling Mullin right about now. I bet KG digs the Bay and would love to play next to Baron and this team.

And **** Wallace Szhebiath. Not after he talked **** about the Dubs a few years back.


Another interesting factor here is that Minny apparantly don't want Marion and Marion don't want them. This means that the Suns must give up Amare if they want Garnett and frankly I don't think they will. I think the Warriors have a legitimate chance of landing KG now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:07 am
badabing8888 wrote:Appears Minny and the Celts agreed in principle for a KG trade but he nixed it because he does not want to play there. It is rumored that the trade was Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Wally Szerbiak, Sebastian Telfair and the 5th pick in the draft for KG and Troy Hudson.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Can't really believe it. KG rejected a trade like that to Boston? That team, with a healthy Pierce and KG can WIN the east... Seems a bit wierd. I guess there's something else behind it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:05 am
ChronicallyInclined wrote:that would have been a terrible trade for the wolves.. jefferson will never be an all-star, cap relief ratliff?, zerbiak? yet to do anything telfair? and a pick,that is just terrible, if that trade went down it would have been a steal for the celts. that is garbage. the dubs could offer wayy more in richardson, maybe ellis and a pick



Al Jefferson is the next PF star in the East and nba! He is a monster and showed the 2nd half of this past season that he is a great player. The TWolves would be getting him and the expiring Ratliff who they could use as an expirer to get some more talent from another team or let him expire and target some freeagents with that money. Telfair would be a question mark but they could cut him from the team if doesn't show up to play. Wally is still a very good scorer and it is just his recent injuries that are a concern. Think McHale would be crazy not to go for this if Garnett wanted to go to the Celts
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:09 am
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CjR wrote:
ChronicallyInclined wrote:that would have been a terrible trade for the wolves.. jefferson will never be an all-star, cap relief ratliff?, zerbiak? yet to do anything telfair? and a pick,that is just terrible, if that trade went down it would have been a steal for the celts. that is garbage. the dubs could offer wayy more in richardson, maybe ellis and a pick


Agree, and with Al Harrington, to boot. McHale should be calling Mullin right about now. I bet KG digs the Bay and would love to play next to Baron and this team.

And **** Wallace Szhebiath. Not after he talked **** about the Dubs a few years back.


Another interesting factor here is that Minny apparantly don't want Marion and Marion don't want them. This means that the Suns must give up Amare if they want Garnett and frankly I don't think they will. I think the Warriors have a legitimate chance of landing KG now.



What I read is that both Marion and KG don't want to go to the Celtics so no three way deal between the three teams can be made. As far as the suns trading Amare for KG (and I'm hearing the TWolves want the Hawks unprotected pick next year that the suns are getting) = NO WAY THE SUNS ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO DO THAT!
I reckon Amare is already moe valuable to the Suns than Garnett could ever be and is a better fit. Amare actually plays Center alot, something KG doesn't want to do and never has. Amare is more of an inside player than Garnett as well and without him inside, the Suns would lose alot from what they do. Don't think KG will go to the Suns and he will have to understand that, unless he goes there once his current contract expires and even then, he will have to take a major pay cut or Marion will have to be shipped out
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:14 am
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badabing8888 wrote:Appears Minny and the Celts agreed in principle for a KG trade but he nixed it because he does not want to play there. It is rumored that the trade was Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Wally Szerbiak, Sebastian Telfair and the 5th pick in the draft for KG and Troy Hudson.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Can't really believe it. KG rejected a trade like that to Boston? That team, with a healthy Pierce and KG can WIN the east... Seems a bit wierd. I guess there's something else behind it.



Don't think they would win the East that easily as having two superstars surrounded completely by players that are yet to prove themselves is no sure thing. True that Green, West, Perkins, Allen and Gomes are potentially a great supporting cast and all could be major players but they are no sure thing yet by far. That team would however be a definate playoff team (barring injuries to Pierce and Garnett) and possible contender and that is more than Garnett really has ever had
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migya wrote:Don't think they would win the East that easily as having two superstars surrounded completely by players that are yet to prove themselves is no sure thing.


Cleveland won it with only Lebron an a subpar supporting cast. Pierce and KG would be the top pair of stars in the east, and Boston would be the main contender if both are healthy. Winning the east ain't that hard.
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TMC wrote:
migya wrote:Don't think they would win the East that easily as having two superstars surrounded completely by players that are yet to prove themselves is no sure thing.


Cleveland won it with only Lebron an a subpar supporting cast. Pierce and KG would be the top pair of stars in the east, and Boston would be the main contender if both are healthy. Winning the east ain't that hard.



Don't think the Cavs will make it back to the finals if they keep such a poor supporting cast around Lebron. The Pistons really look bad having not beaten the Cavs. Looking at each East team, there really isn't much talent on any of them. Even the Bulls are not much after Hinrich (a very good allround guard but not elite), Gordon (a shooter and nothing else) and Deng (a possible future superstar). The Celtics could be the most talented team but those young players of theirs (Green, West, Gomes, Allen, Jefferson and Perkins) need to become what they were expected to be and right now, it only looks like Jefferson will be anything close to a star
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:30 pm
Key is KG can opt out after next year or in 2 years. So basically it would be a 2 year rental if he didnt resign. So id Love Al Jeff, Gerald Green and the pick for KG.

Boston needs to do something, that city will burn Rivers and Ainge at the stake if they are below .500 the next two years.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:58 pm
The Celtics have the young talent to be a great team but they have done an awful job at giving each young guy his role and choosing who will be a starter or not. Tony Allen is very skilled and right now he would be a great 6th man, a very good defender that can score pretty well. Gomes is great off the bench at multiple positions and can start if there is an injury to a frontline player. Gerald Green has to prove himself like none other. If he is truly something special, he has to produce otherwise it is better for Ainge to trade him as he will only ever be a distraction and take court time away from a player that plays a specific role better. Seems like if Green does get better, it will primarily as a scorer and if they ae to keep Pierce, they will have their two main scorers in Pierce and Jefferson so Green would have to fit around those two and that might not happen. Perkins is another that has to prove himself. He has been very good in limited minutes and his reboundign and defense are very valuable but he is not starting material yet and looks like he might not be. He is the key if the Celtics don't draft or sign a player capable of being starting Center. Delonte and Rondo may not be what the Celts need at PG, not pure PG enough so another player may have to be fond for that spot. The Celtics have the young talent but so far it has been utilised horribly and looks like it will never work there like it should
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