32 wrote:With Brian Colangelo eyeballing Mickael Pietrus, it would behoove Chris Mullin to try and wheel and deal a little bit with him. While Colangelo might be an Executive-of-the-Year, Mullin's got a pretty good track record (when it comes to trades) and the two might be able to set something nice up. The first idea is the realistic one, the second idea is the dream:

1) Mickael Pietrus & Golden State's 2007 1st-round pick for Kris Humphries & cash.

As I explained in another thread, Humphries majorly addresses Golden State's rebounding woes. He's not a hound on the glass, but he'll get you 9 a night in starting minutes. Humphries could be Golden State's version of Jason Maxiell. Plus, he's a hustle player, so he wont fall behind in transition as often as Troy Murphy or Mike Dunleavy did.

On Toronto's side of the coin, Colangelo gets Pietrus to be his starting shooting guard... AND he gets a pick in the 1st round of the draft this year, without losing a huge chunk of his rotation. Win/win.

2) Al Harrington, Monta Ellis, Mickael Pietrus, & 2007, 2008 first round picks for Chris Bosh

This one's probably dreaming more than anything else. Golden State gets their dream lineup of Davis and Richardson in the backcourt, with Jackson, Bosh, and Biedrins holding down the front court. Bosh can run in transition, has post game to spare, plays excellent defense, knocks down the midrange, rebounds with the best of them, and is one the game's younger big men. In all reality, he'll probably be the next Garnett someday.

Meanwhile, lets try to justify Toronto giving up that kind of star: If Colangeo is truly banking on Andrea Bargnani, then I don't see why he wouldn't take a huge chunk of Golden State's potent, playoff offense in exchange for Chris Bosh. Monta Ellis is already a 17 PPG scorer... whose only getting better. He may turn into a future star if he can learn to plamake. Mickael Pietrus gives Colangelo the starting SG he's after. And Al Harrington plugs the frontcourt gap that Bosh would leave if he got traded. The Raptors would remain young, they'd recieve 3 above-average talents (with 2 potential stars), and Golden State's draft picks for the next 2 seasons.

... hey, a guy can dream, right?

32 wrote:

migya wrote:

cladden wrote:Heck. I'd do Ellis, Biedrins, Pietrus and Harrington for Bosh. Bosh is a keeper.

Um, I wouldn't

Jesus Christ, I would.

PG - Baron Davis
SG - Jason Richardson
SF - Stephen Jackson
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Patrick O'Bryant

That's a helluva lineup.

32 wrote:So now you're claiming that Chris Bosh isn't a shot-blocker???

migya wrote:

32 wrote:So now you're claiming that Chris Bosh isn't a shot-blocker???

Bosh:
Year Team G Min M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
2006-07 TOR 69 38:30 7.9 15.9 49.6 0.2 0.5 34.3 6.7 8.6 78.5 2.7 8.0 10.7 2.5 2.6 0.6 1.3 2.4 22.6

Chris Bosh isn't much of a shotblocker! It is the part of his game that needs biggest improvement

Yet again I show you that you are off #32, don't continue to blabble on like you are.

JayPat wrote:

migya wrote:

32 wrote:So now you're claiming that Chris Bosh isn't a shot-blocker???

Bosh:
Year Team G Min M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
2006-07 TOR 69 38:30 7.9 15.9 49.6 0.2 0.5 34.3 6.7 8.6 78.5 2.7 8.0 10.7 2.5 2.6 0.6 1.3 2.4 22.6

Chris Bosh isn't much of a shotblocker! It is the part of his game that needs biggest improvement

Yet again I show you that you are off #32, don't continue to blabble on like you are.

That's a bit odd that you think 1.3 isn't good shot-blocking, that's good for 31st in the league. Not monster like Camby but definitely good. And looking at his rebounding numbers, those are monster. And you're basing your argument against him off the fact that his shot-blocking isn't excellent, yet his scoring and rebounding are superior to the guys you mentioned (minus KG).

migya wrote:1.3 blocks a game is good compared to the average of starting players in the nba (all players) and decent for starting PFs. Superstar PFs and Centers shotblock much better (with the exception, strangely, of Garnett who gets under 2 a game) than Bosh. As I said, Bosh needs to improve his shotblocking significantly

TMC wrote:

migya wrote:1.3 blocks a game is good compared to the average of starting players in the nba (all players) and decent for starting PFs. Superstar PFs and Centers shotblock much better (with the exception, strangely, of Garnett who gets under 2 a game) than Bosh. As I said, Bosh needs to improve his shotblocking significantly

He also improved his numbers to almost 2 bpg during the playoffs... He's not a top shot-blocker, but he's more than decent.

migya wrote:Playoffs?! That guy was a choker against the Nets! He played like garbage and was the main reason why they lost!
17.5pts, 9rebs, 1.8blks, 39.6FG% (with a disgraceful Game 3, 4 and 5) = Not a superstar. Makes Dirk look reasonable

TMC wrote:

migya wrote:Playoffs?! That guy was a choker against the Nets! He played like garbage and was the main reason why they lost!
17.5pts, 9rebs, 1.8blks, 39.6FG% (with a disgraceful Game 3, 4 and 5) = Not a superstar. Makes Dirk look reasonable

I was talking only about blocks, not his whole game. Also, Toronto wasn't ready for the playoffs... and I think Mitchell should be the one to blame. We'll see what happens in the future, tho.

migya wrote:

TMC wrote:

migya wrote:Playoffs?! That guy was a choker against the Nets! He played like garbage and was the main reason why they lost!
17.5pts, 9rebs, 1.8blks, 39.6FG% (with a disgraceful Game 3, 4 and 5) = Not a superstar. Makes Dirk look reasonable

I was talking only about blocks, not his whole game. Also, Toronto wasn't ready for the playoffs... and I think Mitchell should be the one to blame. We'll see what happens in the future, tho.

Bosh averaged under 2 blocks a game in the playoffs