#32 wrote:You act like getting "any good coach" is an easy thing. Not everybody wanted the Golden State job after last season's fiasco. 12 years without the playoffs? No defense? No rebounding? Adonal Foyle starting at center? Giant contracts for Murphy and Dunleavy?
What kind of coach do you think would have been chomping at the bit for a job at Golden State? The only good coach we could get was Nelson, #1 because he and Mullin have a great relationship and #2 because we slightly overpaid him.
Hey, overpaying gets you ANY coach. Anyone without a job would be willing to coach the W's. There are only 30 positions like that available. Only Phil Jackson, Riley and a few others have the leverage to say "no, thanks".
#32 wrote:See above. Aside from Larry Brown (who would have been fired after one season, because he would have wanted to trade Dunleavy and Murphy... and neither would go anywhere with their contracts), no coach you listed would have wanted the Golden State job. Like you said, Elie MIGHT have been good, but could have been horrible. Same with Aguirre. And Fratello wasn't available until a week ago. Also, I'm not as high on Terry Porter as you are.
That's debatable. It's just a matter of opinion. I consider all those coaches perfectly able to have this team at .500 (and yeah, we shouldn't count Fratello. It was just an example of another good coach that could have us with a good record).
#32 wrote:Adelman never played Barnes the way Nelson does. Adelman gave the guy a minor role. That's nothing. Anthony Roberson has a role. If he blew up elsewhere next season, would Nelson have discovered him?
Adelman played him as a backup SF (Peja was the starter). His only job was to defend and hustle the minutes he had, and he delivered. He played a similar bball to the one he's playing right now. He's just given more shots and is more important for us. Why?. Because the Kings were a contender at the time. He was the 8th player of that team. We pretty much suck at PF (because Murphy is a non-factor and Ike doesn't play). Barnes is smart and is making the most of his chance.
I just think Nellie's merit is not being afraid to give minutes and shots to the guy (which is extremely important). Barnes is not playing like this because Nellie improved him as a player. He's the same he always was (well, maybe more motivated, but the same player doing the same things).
#32 wrote:How was that not Nelly-ball?!
Murphy at center? Dunleavy at point guard? Baron Davis at shooting guard? Pietrus at power forward???
That looks as Nelly-ball as you can get, to me.
Ok. I'll explain my point. That was Nelly-ball destined to fail. He tried to do so to, I don't know, please the front office or the media, whatever... it's besides the point. Nellie saw what he had in those two and changed his plan on the fly (he tried it for, what?, 3 games or so?). He went with a more classic (for him) lineup. Everybody knew (even Nelly) that Murphy was destined to fail with that lineup and in a Nelly-ball team. The guy can't run, can't defend and can't get boards if there's another body near to him...
#32 wrote:But not playing Ike Diogu is not enough to start incriminating the guy.
Incriminate is a word too strong for what we're saying. We're just stating that not playing Ike a single minute is a mistake. Would we be leading the division with him playing?. Of course not.
But any rookie needs minutes to improve. Nobody improves watching games from the bench. And we certainly wouldn't be a worse team if Nellie were giving Ike 20 min per game (more if he delivers). As a proof, watch almost any game of the season in which he has played.
He doesn't play defense... so what?. Nobody else does (and yes, when any team, not Memphis, ANY team scores over 140 points on you, you should be ashamed. And it has happened twice to this team, as Denver also did it on November).
And if Ike is such a cancer, say it. He's just dropping hints that Ike ain't ready (or that he's a blamer or sh*t like that). If there's something substantial behind them, say it. That hasn't happened yet. Other players are less ready than him and it's all praise (like Dajuan Wagner in preseason. He's going to be back and be a key to the team. Suddenly, he's cut and out of the league again...)