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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:48 am
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32 wrote:True. Thats what they get for trading TJ Ford...


Yeah, I'd take a cheaper T.J. Ford over an overpaid Mo Williams any day.


I'm not as high on TJ Ford as anybody else. I'd rather have Mo Williams than him, to be honest... A little cheaper if possible, tho.


Yeah, that's what I meant. If Williams was cheaper, I'd take him over Ford. But that's not the case.
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32 wrote:True. Thats what they get for trading TJ Ford...


Yeah, I'd take a cheaper T.J. Ford over an overpaid Mo Williams any day.


I'm not as high on TJ Ford as anybody else. I'd rather have Mo Williams than him, to be honest... A little cheaper if possible, tho.



Same here. Mo Williams is one of the most underrated players in the nba. He is a better player than Ford, not by much but he is
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migya wrote:Same here. Mo Williams is one of the most underrated players in the nba. He is a better scorer than Ford,

Fixed that for you. :thumbleft:
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migya wrote:Same here. Mo Williams is one of the most underrated players in the nba. He is a better scorer than Ford,

Fixed that for you. :thumbleft:



TJ Ford gets more assists than Mo Williams, that's it. Mo even shoots better percentages everywhere than Ford
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:38 am
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migya wrote:Same here. Mo Williams is one of the most underrated players in the nba. He is a better scorer than Ford,

Fixed that for you. :thumbleft:



TJ Ford gets more assists than Mo Williams, that's it. Mo even shoots better percentages everywhere than Ford

That's what I said. Mo is a better scorer.

By the way, Mo Williams also plays 5 more minutes a game than TJ Ford (which makes Williams' 3-point, 1-rebound advantage over Ford seem pathetic... especially when you see that Ford STILL gets more assists and steals per game than him).
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Not even an argument, Mo Williams last season was the better player out of the two. Whether that changes remains to be seen
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The "better player" didn't even get to the playoffs.

TJ Ford, along with Sam Mitchell, reinvigorated the Raptors franchise and changed them from a half court offense to a running team. Check any Toronto board there is and they'll be happy to tell you that TJ was just as responsible as anybody else (sans Bosh) that the Raptors did as well as they did.

Meanwhile, Mo Williams scored a lot of points and the Bucks didn't even make the post season.

You're right. Its not even an argument.
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The Bucks had major injuries all last season, I'll leave it at that, take it easy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:52 am
In a cover-article from SLAM a few months back, Chris Bosh mentions that the first thing Brian Collangelo did when he arrived was ask Bosh which available point guard he'd like to play with the most... and Bosh hand-picked Ford.

The trade for TJ Ford was moreso Bosh's doing than anybody else. :mrgreen:
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32 wrote:In a cover-article from SLAM a few months back, Chris Bosh mentions that the first thing Brian Collangelo did when he arrived was ask Bosh which available point guard he'd like to play with the most... and Bosh hand-picked Ford.

The trade for TJ Ford was moreso Bosh's doing than anybody else. :mrgreen:


Well, it depends on who was on that list of available PGs. I mean, if he has to chose between Ford, Mike James, Telfair and Fisher (just an example, as those were some of the guys that were available)... well, that's an easy choice.

But I don't think Ford is even a top 10 pg in the league. A good one, sure... but nothing else.
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He's definately not a Top 10 PG... but neither is Mo Williams.

The two have, virtually, equal talent, but its distributed differently. Williams is a combo guard that can score far better than he can pass. Ford is a speedy playmaker who sets his teammates on fire by getting them the ball at the right time. Williams will get you 18 and 6. Ford will get you 16 and 8.

It really depends on what you're looking to get out of your PG. Teams like Toronto (who are looking to win in the playoffs, rather than simply "make" them) understand that pass-first points (like Ford and Calderon) are essential to winning ball games. Score-first points entertain the fans, but don't usually win when it counts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:06 am
I consider both Ford and Mo Williams top 10-11 PGs. I can't see more than these PGs better than them:

Nash
Baron
Deron
Chris Paul
Billups
Kidd
Iverson
Arenas
Parker
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:49 am
migya wrote:I consider both Ford and Mo Williams top 10-11 PGs. I can't see more than these PGs better than them:

Nash
Baron
Deron
Chris Paul
Billups
Kidd
Iverson
Arenas
Parker

I'd put Mike Bibby above them, too. Mike Conley might be in there. And I have a feeling both Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis will have quasi-comeback seasons next year. But, other than that, sounds about right.
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