coltraning wrote:c'mon, 32, Ike is not a center. I agree with TMC, a truly dumbass move by Monty. Ike is BARELY 6'8. He has no business at center, didn't even play there in college, where the players are 3-4 inches shorter on average. The only reason they put him there was cause they didn't want to bench Murphy because they were shopping Murphy at the time. And playing behind one of the best PF in the league and with Murphy sucking up minutes, he is in a situation where he is getting crumbs.
The so-called "centers" that Ike played against held an average of 3.125 inches on Ike Diogu (meaning that their average height was 6'11"). The average NBA power forward is 6'10. This means that Ike was giving up ONE more inch than he usually would against his normal competition.
Claiming that Diogu was unfairly places against centers is not a valid claim when the only center who was dramatically bigger than Diogu was Shaquille O'Neal. Chris Mihm, Eric Dampier, and Shaquille O'Neal were the only centers anybody could consider 'dramatically bigger' than Ike Diogu... in fact, he outweighed every other starting center that he played against.
coltraning wrote:Also, Diogu sympathizers? Damn, is that like communist sympathizers?
colt, please. Does everything need to turn into a civil rights battle? Everytime somebody makes a general comment, it doesn't have to be a red herring or a "love it or leave it" Bush-voter thing. I understand that being a Republican is the worst possible thing, in your eyes (and mine, for that matter), but lets stay on topic here.
coltraning wrote:I thought he was your fave warrior until the trade? Does that make you one? Fact remains he had pretty much the highest scoring per/48 and PER of any rookie in the league last year. I think the jury is out, and way too early to conclude that he is a bust. Remember that bust Chauncey Billups or that other bust Jermaine O'Neal? When Diogu gets consistent minutes at the 4, say 25 a game, then we can draw conclusions...Let me be clear. I was possibly the biggest Ike-booster around here, and I am thrilled we made the trade, cause Ike is the antithesis of a Nelly-style player and I think getting HarringJax for Dungleavy is a felony in 37 states...
Diogu's minutes aren't the only things that fell off in Indiana; so have his percentages. Diogu's shooting a meager 41.1% as a Pacer (and that includes 5 nights of attempting 7 or more shots). Diogu's defense is not improving, his turnovers are only getting worse, and his rock-solid field-goal percentage is following suit.
To reitterate: I'm not saying Diogu WONT blow up, I'm saying that it's looking less and less likely to happen by the minute.