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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:34 pm
Turns out Ellis was too good to pass on
By Marc J. Spears
Denver Post Staff Writer 11/23/2006


The Nuggets selected Julius Hodge with the 20th pick in the 2005 draft and acquired the draft rights to 27th pick Linas Kleiza.

By the time Denver acquired the draft rights to little-known high school forward Ricky Sanchez with the 35th pick overall in the second round, a frustrated Monta Ellis was passed over by the franchise for the third time.

"I was like, 'Man I can't believe this,"' Ellis said. "There were a lot of names that were thrown out there where I was like, 'Man, you got to be kidding me."'

The Warriors selected the 2005 Parade magazine prep national co-player of the year with the 40th overall pick. The Jackson (Miss) Lanier High School graduate, who averaged 38.4 points as senior, was projected as a top-20 pick until concerns surfaced about his surgically repaired left knee. He currently is the second-leading scorer in the 2005 class behind the New Orleans-Oklahoma City Hornets' Chris Paul.

Ellis is averaging 18.1 points, 4.4 assists and 2.1 steals per game and has scored a career-high 31 twice this season. The 6-foot-3, 177-pound guard had 11 points, a career-high nine assists and three steals in Wednesday's 115-112 loss to visiting Denver. The athletic, speedy combo guard is also the leading scorer of the 10 high school players selected in the final year they were draft eligible.

"I'm not surprised," the 21-year old Ellis said. "I feel good. But I'm going to get better."

Said Nuggets coach George Karl: "He is catching a lot of the league by surprise with his speed and quickness. The league's going to catch up with him a little bit. ... I think everybody has been surprised by his confidence and his speed. He's a cocky kid out there."

Ellis worked out with Sanchez in Florida before the 2005 draft and after Wednesday's game asked with a serious tone where Sanchez was playing now. The free agent is in his second season playing for NBADL Idaho.

"Are (the Nuggets) going to bring him up?" Ellis asked seriously.

While the Nuggets were interested in Ellis, an NBA source said he failed the team's pre-draft physical because his left knee was viewed as potentially arthritic.

He had knee surgery in April 2005 and wears a knee brace. With NBA teams concerned about the knee, Ellis dropped fast in a 2005 draft he viewed as "hurtful."

But he hasn't missed any NBA games because of the knee and his recent highlight-reel dunk over Phoenix's Leandro Barbosa showed how strong his knee has become.

"That was a big thing with teams," Ellis said about knee surgery. "But if they had good trainers, like they say they do, that wouldn't have even been an issue."

Ellis played sparingly as a rookie under then-Warriors coach Mike Montgomery and averaged 6.8 points in 18.9 minutes in 49 games. He said Montgomery wasn't confident about giving a kid out of high school playing time and "it was tough to sit."

But he averaged 14.3 points in last season's final seven games and scored 27 against Utah in the season finale.

Warriors management traded veteran point guard Derek Fisher to Utah to give Ellis more time behind Baron Davis. But under new and unconventional veteran coach Don Nelson, Ellis is starting alongside Davis.

"He needs to play a lot to get better. And I think we're going to have a really good player if we go through that process," Nelson said.

"That was more important than anything else. ... He's such a positive out there that the mistakes that he makes I can live with."

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:39 pm
He's so good... I'm sure Mullin will convince Cohan to keep him. There's no way we'll have another Arenas issue.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:47 am
Nothing's a sure thing until it happens and Monta might be one of the most sort after players the offseason he is to be signed
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:42 am
I am sure they can keep 2 of Monta, Andris, Ike and Pietrus...as well as Pietrus is playing, he will probably be the one they let go and Monta they will keep for sure. Right now it looks like they would keep Andris over Ike, but I am hoping to God they move Murphy somehow, and of course, we have to see how the season prgresses once Ike gets healthy. I am 2nd to none as an Ike supporter, but he needs to get back and show what he can do! As for Monta, he is, right now, probably one of the 20 most entertaining players in the league at 21! Even Uptempo has to give Mullin props for that pick and the Biedrins one :mrgreen:
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coltraning wrote:I am sure they can keep 2 of Monta, Andris, Ike and Pietrus...as well as Pietrus is playing, he will probably be the one they let go and Monta they will keep for sure.


Keep Ike out of the equation for now. Both Foyle and Baron's contracts will have finished by the time we have to sign him to an extension, so he's not a problem... for now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:56 pm
i have a hard feeling about the warriors not going to sign him but let hope my feeling is wrong becuase im praying that they sign him
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OH YEAH 200 POST :bday:

i even pay the warriors money to sign him that how badly i want him here
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:55 pm
TMC wrote:
coltraning wrote:I am sure they can keep 2 of Monta, Andris, Ike and Pietrus...as well as Pietrus is playing, he will probably be the one they let go and Monta they will keep for sure.


Keep Ike out of the equation for now. Both Foyle and Baron's contracts will have finished by the time we have to sign him to an extension, so he's not a problem... for now.

Really???

Thats great news! We'll drop Foyle's contract and be able to resign Ike!

So does this mean that, assuming we resign Biedrins and Monta, all we're likely to lose is Pietrus? :mrgreen:
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#32 wrote:
TMC wrote:
coltraning wrote:I am sure they can keep 2 of Monta, Andris, Ike and Pietrus...as well as Pietrus is playing, he will probably be the one they let go and Monta they will keep for sure.


Keep Ike out of the equation for now. Both Foyle and Baron's contracts will have finished by the time we have to sign him to an extension, so he's not a problem... for now.

Really???

Thats great news! We'll drop Foyle's contract and be able to resign Ike!

So does this mean that, assuming we resign Biedrins and Monta, all we're likely to lose is Pietrus? :mrgreen:


Now that would be awesome. Pietrus has been producing pretty well this season but he's never going to be a franchise player.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:20 pm
i would like to see the warriors resign airfrance but if that would cost us losing manta or AB or even ike i wouldnt sign him
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:05 pm
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#32 wrote:
TMC wrote:
coltraning wrote:I am sure they can keep 2 of Monta, Andris, Ike and Pietrus...as well as Pietrus is playing, he will probably be the one they let go and Monta they will keep for sure.


Keep Ike out of the equation for now. Both Foyle and Baron's contracts will have finished by the time we have to sign him to an extension, so he's not a problem... for now.

Really???

Thats great news! We'll drop Foyle's contract and be able to resign Ike!

So does this mean that, assuming we resign Biedrins and Monta, all we're likely to lose is Pietrus? :mrgreen:


Now that would be awesome. Pietrus has been producing pretty well this season but he's never going to be a franchise player.



Watched the Warriors v Kings game a couple of days ago and Pietrus was REAL good! He is a very capable player with someone tp pass the ball to him, like Baron and Monta. He is not as valuable as Monta and Biedrins but he is a very good starting SF and he is probably the best defender right now for the team
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#32 wrote:
TMC wrote:
coltraning wrote:I am sure they can keep 2 of Monta, Andris, Ike and Pietrus...as well as Pietrus is playing, he will probably be the one they let go and Monta they will keep for sure.


Keep Ike out of the equation for now. Both Foyle and Baron's contracts will have finished by the time we have to sign him to an extension, so he's not a problem... for now.

Really???

Thats great news! We'll drop Foyle's contract and be able to resign Ike!

So does this mean that, assuming we resign Biedrins and Monta, all we're likely to lose is Pietrus? :mrgreen:


Don't be so happy about it. We'll have more salary added with the new rookies we'll have drafted by that time and the extensions we'll have to sign for Biedrins and Ellis (at least). We still will need to get rid of a couple of contracts to re-sign Ike (unless we decide not to re-sign Baron when his current deal ends).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:38 pm
Thats out of the question. Baron Davis needs to be resigned. Obviously, since he's injury prone now, it should be for a lesser amount (not dramatically smaller).

An easy way to solve this would be for Golden State to start selling their draft picks. We've got enough young talent... lets trade our picks (post-2007, of course) for expirers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:15 am
Definitely a good idea. Add to Foyle's contract, we should be safe.
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