#32 wrote:The respect you speak of is gained through fear. When people are afraid of their superiors, they become unstable.
Respect is something that is not always given unless made aware of it! Children need to be shown that they need to respect and at times they need to be shown it strongly! Now being a father, I realise that a child needs to be held accountable from the start and that a child wants to be independent but is not capable of being so yet. When a child outright disrespects their parents by disregarding what they are told or through harsh actions and attitudem they need to be shown that that is not acceptable! Depending on the situation, a parent, after trying to explain verbally with logical reasoning and that not working, is required to make things known right there in that moment! The child may or may not be afraid initially but the parent must again explain the reasoning for their reaction! Parents are accountable for alot of their children's attitudes and discipline, done right, is essential for a child developing a good attitude and respect for others.
#32 wrote:Children who straighten up because they're punished have been seen in studies to go right back to their bad behavior once the parental figure is out of sight. Furthermore, punishment doesn't lead the victim to better understand the virtue he is meant to learn; it leads him to despise the punisher. Modern psychologists all agree that the method of punishment is ineffective and needs to change.
It is not punishment! It is being held accountable for their attitude and actions! You have to stop them right there and make it known that what they just said or did is not acceptable!
I have read journals from scientists and psychologists that state that spanking, done in the right situations and not just for everything, is ESSENTIAL for the proper development of a child because it shows then that there is a consequence for their behaviour and that people do not accept disrespect from others.
I now respect my parents more than ever and understand why, in certain situations, I was hit and I see that some children are in need of being stopped and shown, with hitting because they do not listen to anything said to them, that their disrespect is not accepted! The world is worse now than it ever was and it is partly due to lack of discipline from parents!
Consequence and Reaction are nature! For every action there is a proper reaction that keeps things honest and evolving! Making someone accountable for a disrespectful act has always been and will always be right and just!
#32 wrote:Case in point, if fans boo Dunleavy, it's a sign of disrespect. Jason Richardson was even quoted saying he knows it hurts Mike Dunleavy. And, as stated above, hurting someone for screwing up never creates a positive result.
Letting someone that has shown lack of motivation at times remain unaccountable is not going to change anything! Dunleavy has to know that it is expected that he does better and that the fans are paying him and that they want better. Boing is harsh but sometimes harsh reactions are needed to get someone to respect your view