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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:38 pm
Tough crowd, especially for Dunleavy
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Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Dunleavy still getting booed

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Jason Richardson believes "it's only a matter of time before there's a full house every night" with the Warriors winning three of their first four home games, but there's one crowd reaction he hasn't appreciated.

With Golden State up by 22 points in the second quarter of Saturday's 111-79 win against the Pistons, forward Mike Dunleavy was fouled by Flip Murray. Dunleavy was booed loudly after missing his first free-throw try, then even louder after missing his second.

"It's head-scratching," Richardson said. "They've been tough on Mike since Mike's been here, and when we're at home and your fans are on your back if you make two mistakes or miss two shots in a row, that's tough."
The Warriors are three games into a franchise-long, seven-game homestand they hope will establish home-court advantage for the season, and players already have heard everything from rousing ovations to relative silence to boo birds.
Dunleavy has been a target of jeers at points throughout his first four seasons, and he didn't catch much of a break Tuesday despite a solid start. Dunleavy, who had 15 points on 6-of-8 shooting in the first half, was again booed after missing an open three-point try in the second quarter.

"I've been with Mike for five years. I know it gets to him," Richardson said. "He wants to do good and they don't give him a chance. I wish our fans would give him a chance."

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Missing free throws is not excusable. Deserves for that.

Missed 3pt shot? I admit that's too harsh, and, being at the Piston's game, I did hear booing. I did boo on the second FT miss. I'll only boo for 3pters if a player is taking way, WAY too many.

Right now Dun deserves the booing until he can prove himself. That means conisistency, before you bring up the 22 pt game. Consistent scoring, rebounding, and passing. Let's see it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:26 pm
Frankly, Dunleavy has been given as many chances for his lack of production as any player in the history of sports. I don't think booing him is the solution since he's so soft he'll perform worse if he's boo'd, and it won't put him on the bench.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:55 am
JRich is just sticking up for his teammate but he has to understand why people are not happy with dun
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:42 am
migya wrote:JRich is just sticking up for his teammate but he has to understand why people are not happy with dun


Yeah, that's it. And JP said it well:

John Patrick wrote:Right now Dun deserves the booing until he can prove himself. That means conisistency, before you bring up the 22 pt game. Consistent scoring, rebounding, and passing. Let's see it.


He's been given enough chances. Now it's his time to prove himself.
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migya wrote:JRich is just sticking up for his teammate but he has to understand why people are not happy with dun


Yeah, that's it. And JP said it well:

John Patrick wrote:Right now Dun deserves the booing until he can prove himself. That means conisistency, before you bring up the 22 pt game. Consistent scoring, rebounding, and passing. Let's see it.


He's been given enough chances. Now it's his time to prove himself.


C'mon guys, he's only been given a 4 year chance. Let's give him another 4 years to prove himself, and if he can't do it then, then we can make a fair judgement about him... :roll:

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It is counterproductive to boo the first ft or first mistake, This type of non support is detremental to the player and the TEAM :banghead: If the "fans" chanted D E F E NS E and made as much noise during opponents ft's or free pizza as they boo Dunleavy there would be better results :!: I would like to hear from someone attending tonight's Sac game on which fans were louder, the scattered Sac fans or the Warriors Home crowd :oops:
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Guarentee it'll be the Kings fans in the house. Our fans are sorry as hell. If they aren't booing, they aren't paying attention to the game.

Missing two free throws in a row is horrid... but I don't boo any players. I, personally, think booing is classless and low-rent. If you cheer players on, they'll do better. If you boo them, they perform worse. What's the point?

Fans were on their feet, screaming for Adonal Foyle to get some playing time a couple games ago. Did Nelly succumb to their yelps? Of course not. So why do 'fans' think that there's a chance the player will be removed from the game if they boo? The door swings both ways, bitches.

Why do you think they've made so many child protection laws in the past couple of decades? Because children were dying from being spanked? Or because beating your child isn't the best way to motivate him? It's the same thing in a sporting event.
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#32 wrote:Why do you think they've made so many child protection laws in the past couple of decades? Because children were dying from being spanked? Or because beating your child isn't the best way to motivate him? It's the same thing in a sporting event.




But spanking your child when it is needed (and there are times when the child shows enough disrespect that they need it) leads to greater respect and proper attitude. It can be the same with professionals, business owners etc. People need to be held accountable and sometimes slightly harsh, in your face actions ar needed!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:38 pm
Agreed here. Take a look at that fat check Dunny boy's getting in the mail. He's a professional basketball player. It's his job to play basketball well, and booing, although harsh, lets us share our viewpoints to the Warriors.
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The respect you speak of is gained through fear. When people are afraid of their superiors, they become unstable.

Children who straighten up because they're punished have been seen in studies to go right back to their bad behavior once the parental figure is out of sight. Furthermore, punishment doesn't lead the victim to better understand the virtue he is meant to learn; it leads him to despise the punisher. Modern psychologists all agree that the method of punishment is ineffective and needs to change.

Compelling cases have been made against the whole concept of abusing someone for stepping out of line. This practice is seen as a waste of time.

Case in point, if fans boo Dunleavy, it's a sign of disrespect. Jason Richardson was even quoted saying he knows it hurts Mike Dunleavy. And, as stated above, hurting someone for screwing up never creates a positive result.
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Two different examples. Dun is a professional and an adult. Anyone who signs up for the NBA needs to accept booing. It's a part of the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:30 am
#32 wrote:Case in point, if fans boo Dunleavy, it's a sign of disrespect.


Of course it is. Why would anyone boo someone they respect?. If people boo is because they don't want to see him again.

John Patrick wrote:Two different examples. Dun is a professional and an adult. Anyone who signs up for the NBA needs to accept booing. It's a part of the game.


True that... and if he doesn't perform better, maybe continued booing will force him to demand a trade. [-o<

There's a motive for everything in life. Now that I think of it... do you think that Warriors fan's would cheer him up if he really demanded a trade? :mrgreen:
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#32 wrote:The respect you speak of is gained through fear. When people are afraid of their superiors, they become unstable.

Children who straighten up because they're punished have been seen in studies to go right back to their bad behavior once the parental figure is out of sight. Furthermore, punishment doesn't lead the victim to better understand the virtue he is meant to learn; it leads him to despise the punisher. Modern psychologists all agree that the method of punishment is ineffective and needs to change.

Compelling cases have been made against the whole concept of abusing someone for stepping out of line. This practice is seen as a waste of time.

Case in point, if fans boo Dunleavy, it's a sign of disrespect. Jason Richardson was even quoted saying he knows it hurts Mike Dunleavy. And, as stated above, hurting someone for screwing up never creates a positive result.

There's no point in arguing with migya on this one, 32. Migya's the guy who thinks that every american should have an assault rifle
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#32 wrote:The respect you speak of is gained through fear. When people are afraid of their superiors, they become unstable.

Children who straighten up because they're punished have been seen in studies to go right back to their bad behavior once the parental figure is out of sight. Furthermore, punishment doesn't lead the victim to better understand the virtue he is meant to learn; it leads him to despise the punisher. Modern psychologists all agree that the method of punishment is ineffective and needs to change.

Compelling cases have been made against the whole concept of abusing someone for stepping out of line. This practice is seen as a waste of time.

Case in point, if fans boo Dunleavy, it's a sign of disrespect. Jason Richardson was even quoted saying he knows it hurts Mike Dunleavy. And, as stated above, hurting someone for screwing up never creates a positive result.

There's no point in arguing with migya on this one, 32. Migya's the guy who thinks that every american should have an assault rifle

I'm all in favor of us spanking Migya's child, but other than that... :mrgreen:

as for Dun booing, it comes with the territory, and he can dry his tears with some of the dollar bills from that 9 Mill/per year contract. No tears for Dung here, though, like I said, he has played well the past 2 games...
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