zshook wrote:This is simple.
Drinking (AT ALL) and driving is STUPID.
ie Musslemans arrest, and in his case embarrasing.
Just dont do it.

Big B wrote:This isn't exactly accurate.

You can still get a DUI with <.08. If you your blood / breath is .08 or < then your driving privelage is revoked.

A DUI is a violation of section 23152 (a) - which says you are driving with even traces of alcohol in you blood / breath.

Section 23152 (b) - says you have .08 or more alcohol in your blood / breath. This is when the DMV steps in and says you can't drive anymore.

So, if your blood / breath alcohol level reads .08 or more, then you have violated 2 counts of DUI and you loose your driving privelage for at least 1 year, along with a number of fines and community service and jail time.

#32 wrote:

Big B wrote:This isn't exactly accurate.

You can still get a DUI with <.08. If you your blood / breath is .08 or < then your driving privelage is revoked.

A DUI is a violation of section 23152 (a) - which says you are driving with even traces of alcohol in you blood / breath.

Section 23152 (b) - says you have .08 or more alcohol in your blood / breath. This is when the DMV steps in and says you can't drive anymore.

So, if your blood / breath alcohol level reads .08 or more, then you have violated 2 counts of DUI and you loose your driving privelage for at least 1 year, along with a number of fines and community service and jail time.

Well, I'm guessing Musselman wasn't exactly a beer or two deep. He was disoriented enough to get pulled over for his effected driving skills. If he was at 0.2 or 0.3, I doubt he'd be driving bad enough to warrant a police officer's time.

zshook wrote:Who says you have to follow suit with what is culturally accepted.
In this kind of situation you have to think smart and for yourself not, just because I made it home last time ok Ill be ok this time.
Like I said if you drink and drive you are an IDEOT.
You are putting not only your life in jeopardy but everyone on the road with you as well. I think the saying better safe than sorry best describes this scererio best. Im not saying dont drink, just have some one drive if you do that is not drinking or call a cab. A cab ride is alot cheaper than a jail sentence for vehicular manslaughter. Ok Im coming down off my soap box now.

#32 wrote:I dunno. I haven't heard anything, either.

#32 wrote:Well, thats how the modern system works.

Look at cops who hide behind blind spots and gun people down on the freeway with radar. What do you think would save more lives: a cop patroling the highway in visible sight or some schmuck waiting behind a bush to pull you over? If drivers knew a cop was around, they'd probably slow down and, thus, get into less accidents. It sounds like a better method, if safety is the issue.

But, then again, what generates more money for the system...?

cladden wrote:

#32 wrote:I dunno. I haven't heard anything, either.

0.11.

From here:

http://www.ktvu.com/sports/10128421/detail.html

#32 wrote:But does it consistently slow you down, as if a cop was riding right next to you?

Big B wrote:

zshook wrote:This is simple.
Drinking (AT ALL) and driving is STUPID.
ie Musslemans arrest, and in his case embarrasing.
Just dont do it.

This is easier said than done. Alcohol is totally embedded in American culture and world culture for that matter.

Every resturant, ball park, arena, grocery store, and mini marts are all focused around alcohol.

Most every magazine ad, billboard, or commerical on tv or radio push alcohol. Alcohol is a part of life.

Getting tanked and then getting behind the wheel is stupid, but having a beverage or two while amongst friends enjoying a meal, or show, or ball game and then driving home is not bad. It's what our culture / enviornment shapes us to do...