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sfsfsfgiants sfsfsfgiants's Profile Franchise Player Posts: 5756 Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:40 am Location: On the couch watching sports Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:24 pm The Raiders suck. That is why they dont make Super Bowls. The Niners, on the other hand, do have Super Bowls. Five, to be exact, and they dont choke when they get there. Niners all the way. By far the best franchise. 2007 - GoldenStWarriors.com "Rookie of the Year"
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:27 pm

sfsfsfgiants wrote:The Raiders suck. That is why they dont make Super Bowls.

The Niners, on the other hand, do have Super Bowls. Five, to be exact, and they dont choke when they get there. Niners all the way. By far the best franchise.

raiders dont choke refs rob them

2002 tuck rule

1975 the ball was supposed to be dead
1974 chiefs forgot call but 10 years later proved it was called wrong

refs hate al davis his team is the raiders

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:30 pm

oaklandfnatic wrote:refs hate al davis his team is the raiders

Like every other Raider fan, you hide behind the Al Davis problem and use that as an excuse for not getting it done? Original...... :roll:

I just cant wait for Davis to either step down or die, and watch all the Raider fans' only excuse for their sh*ttyness goes out the window. Then, what will you blame when they play like crap? Nothing... except your crappyness.

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:33 pm

sfsfsfgiants wrote:
oaklandfnatic wrote:refs hate al davis his team is the raiders

Like every other Raider fan, you hide behind the Al Davis problem and use that as an excuse for not getting it done? Original......

I just cant wait for Davis to either step down or die, and watch all the Raider fans' only excuse for their sh*ttyness goes out the window. Then, what will you blame when they play like crap? Nothing... except your crappyness.

I'm not blaming al i like him, but the refs dont. you know all though calls were blown i posted so dont act like im making excuses .

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:35 pm

sfsfsfgiants wrote:The Raiders suck. That is why they dont make Super Bowls.

The Niners, on the other hand, do have Super Bowls. Five, to be exact, and they dont choke when they get there. Niners all the way. By far the best franchise.

UMMM THE GREAT OAKLAND RAIDERS HAVE BEEN ( A LOSS BUT STILL WE GOT THERE) MORE RECENTLY THAN THE NINERS :roll:

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:36 pm

oaklandfnatic wrote:
sfsfsfgiants wrote:
oaklandfnatic wrote:refs hate al davis his team is the raiders

Like every other Raider fan, you hide behind the Al Davis problem and use that as an excuse for not getting it done? Original......

I just cant wait for Davis to either step down or die, and watch all the Raider fans' only excuse for their sh*ttyness goes out the window. Then, what will you blame when they play like crap? Nothing... except your crappyness.
I'm not blaming al i like him, but the refs dont. you know all though calls were blown i posted so dont act like im making excuses .

But you didnt answer my main point. What will you do when Al dies and the Raiders still suck? Are you going to blame the refs, or will you finally admit that they are a sub-par franchise?

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webelieve webelieve's Profile All Star Posts: 1335 Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:52 am Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:40 pm Yo joel man....we got 5 not to mention we havent lost a superbowl game. Go Ham
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:41 pm

sfsfsfgiants wrote:
oaklandfnatic wrote:
sfsfsfgiants wrote:
oaklandfnatic wrote:refs hate al davis his team is the raiders

Like every other Raider fan, you hide behind the Al Davis problem and use that as an excuse for not getting it done? Original......

I just cant wait for Davis to either step down or die, and watch all the Raider fans' only excuse for their sh*ttyness goes out the window. Then, what will you blame when they play like crap? Nothing... except your crappyness.
I'm not blaming al i like him, but the refs dont. you know all though calls were blown i posted so dont act like im making excuses .

But you didnt answer my main point. What will you do when Al dies and the Raiders still suck? Are you going to blame the refs, or will you finally admit that they are a sub-par franchise?

It dont matter we got the rep it wont change next year (he is not stepping down die but not quit) if they stop calling bad calls then yes I'll admit they are sub-par but they deserve 5 superbowls off all though robs. (we dont choke in the superbowl the three we won we crushed the nfc team)

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:41 pm

sfsfsfgiants wrote:
oaklandfnatic wrote:
sfsfsfgiants wrote:
oaklandfnatic wrote:refs hate al davis his team is the raiders

Like every other Raider fan, you hide behind the Al Davis problem and use that as an excuse for not getting it done? Original......

I just cant wait for Davis to either step down or die, and watch all the Raider fans' only excuse for their sh*ttyness goes out the window. Then, what will you blame when they play like crap? Nothing... except your crappyness.
I'm not blaming al i like him, but the refs dont. you know all though calls were blown i posted so dont act like im making excuses .

But you didnt answer my main point. What will you do when Al dies and the Raiders still suck? Are you going to blame the refs, or will you finally admit that they are a sub-par franchise?

GOT TO JUMP IN :mrgreen:

when davis goes i will be happy i still honor him and will be glad to see him move on. but the team will be starting over from scratch
we have had ONE owner/general manager/ coach for all our history it will take time to re establish and be productive....niners have sucked ever since what carmen put together retired or got tradded off the team...carmen put it together and when his personel left the niners havnt done anything...not to mention umm didnt carmen cheat?ohh wait that was eddy the cheater no wait the both cheated auuugghhhhh well who cares about salery caps :shock:

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JOEL JOEL's Profile All Star Posts: 2741 Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:09 pm Location: surviving in your world Poster Credit: 3	Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:59 pm sf3 your taking way to long to respond i know your going to hammer me I had the meaning but missed the experience. T.S. Eliot
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Raiders In the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Name Pos Seasons Inducted
Jim Otto C 1960-1974 1980
George Blanda QB/K 1967-1975
1981
Willie Brown CB 1967-1978
1984
Gene Upshaw G 1967-1982 1987
Fred Biletnikoff WR 1965-1978 1988
Art Shell T 1968-1982 1989
Ted Hendricks LB 1975-1983 1990
Al Davis Owner 1963-present 1992
Mike Haynes CB 1983-1989 1997
Eric Dickerson RB 1992 1999
Howie Long DE 1981-1993 2000
Ronnie Lott S 1991-1992 2000
Dave Casper TE 1974-1980, 1984 2002
Marcus Allen RB 1982-1992 2003
James Lofton WR 1987-1988 2003
Bob Brown OT 1971-1973 2004
John Madden Head Coach 1969-78 2006
what now

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:11 pm

oaklandfnatic wrote:Raiders In the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Name Pos Seasons Inducted
Jim Otto C 1960-1974 1980
George Blanda QB/K 1967-1975
1981
Willie Brown CB 1967-1978
1984
Gene Upshaw G 1967-1982 1987
Fred Biletnikoff WR 1965-1978 1988
Art Shell T 1968-1982 1989
Ted Hendricks LB 1975-1983 1990
Al Davis Owner 1963-present 1992
Mike Haynes CB 1983-1989 1997
Eric Dickerson RB 1992 1999
Howie Long DE 1981-1993 2000
Ronnie Lott S 1991-1992 2000
Dave Casper TE 1974-1980, 1984 2002
Marcus Allen RB 1982-1992 2003
James Lofton WR 1987-1988 2003
Bob Brown OT 1971-1973 2004
John Madden Head Coach 1969-78 2006
what now

lott is more niner than raider
dickerson is more ram than raider

but i do love reading that list

but sf3 i think will count oj for the niners :?:

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rebel rebel's Profile rebel's Website Starting Lineup Posts: 921 Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:58 pm Location: SpringTown, Livermore Poster Credit: 0	Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:18 pm i got the list off raiders web site so he must of went in as a raider I like pie
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JOEL JOEL's Profile All Star Posts: 2741 Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:09 pm Location: surviving in your world Poster Credit: 3	Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:20 pm oaklandfnatic wrote:i got the list off raiders web site so he must of went in as a raider umm we should ask bada he will know i doubt lott or dickerson went in as a raider but badda will know I had the meaning but missed the experience. T.S. Eliot
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