Re: Raider Nation Thread
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:43 pm
Davis was the only owner not to vote for the NFL proposal. Interesting, though not surprising.
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PAWNO wrote:Wow bro.. You obviously don't know Nnamdi then.
JREED wrote:You're right, but neither do you. What I do know is how he has came across in about 3 different interviews that I've heard and he sounds like a guy that is ready for a big payday, to compete and to start over somewhere new. Also the fact that he had the choice to not exercise that clause in his contract, but went ahead and did it is the only evidence to indicate that he is on either side of the fence, which strongly suggests that he is not coming back. The idea that he would come back for less money is preposterous and anyway you look at it, that just doesn't make sense - why not stay and restructure if that's the case? If that was even a possibility, why did he jump the second he got a chance
JREED wrote:Honestly, I don't care what he does as long as he doesn't go somewhere in the NFC West. Yes, that includes the 9ers - while we need serious help at the CB position, we don't need to offer up another massive contract for a guy that's already past his peak.
JREED wrote:@the Raiders vote in the "CBA" or whatever it was - it's a childish move, they didn't vote no because they knew it would go anywhere but they still wanted to protest. It's like a little kid complaining about how the game isn't fair because they can't win and they refuse to play. While I do see the Raider's concern because financially, they're doing pretty bad.x
I fail to see how this has anything to do with this discussion, rather it's just an "opportunity" for you to talk **** about my team.PAWNO wrote:I think I know my own team better then you do... Just like as if I was one of the many people who call Alex Smith a bust, a failure, a quitter (which he all is)
yet I get a sense from the reaction from my comments with the Niners fans I speak to is it's not all his fault.
Yet another stupid move by Al and the Raider's front office...PAWNO wrote:It was a clause that was always going to be activated by statistics & it was written in by Al Davis to prevent a under performing cornerback not registering a sack, a interception or a forced fumble...
I can tell you one thing that I know for sure - players don't view the game like fans do, and that is your primary malfunction in this debate. You are projecting your own thoughts and beliefs on to the players. PLAYERS GO WHERE THE MONEY IS!!! It is only a miniscule minority of players in professional sports that exercise team loyalty over fiscal gain.PAWNO wrote:He is not going to take a step backwards and sign up for the NFC WEST... If it's not about a payday for Nnamdi then it's about competing for a title & there is no realistic contenders in that horrible division. By joining the NFC WEST it's a crapshoot on choosing the team that will win the division because every team except maybe the Cardinals has a chance to compete for that division. He'd more likely join a established contender such as NYJ or BALTIMORE.
GOD! You just have the uncanny ability to blindly spin everything in a positive light when it comes to your team and the exact opposite when it comes to others. *Actually* again you are implying that you know something about a public figure that others do not - you don't know why Al did this, because nobody does! However, there is a more convincing case that Al did this for other reasons than the right one:PAWNO wrote:Actually by not voting it helps Al Davis prove to the players that he is a PLAYERS OWNER... While the NFLPA gets on twitter with their players and blasts the likes of York, Jerry Jones and Snyder for being greedy mofo's... It helps players be sympathetic to Al Davis team and it may even pay dividends with a sympathy free agent signing (& the vote was always going to be passed due to the urgency of the lockout.. So why not be the owner that says your disappointed with the CBA?)
Also, what tweets have you read or heard of with players blasting the Yorks? Or are you just saying that in general players are blasting owners, not named Al Davis, over the lockout and you chose to include the Yorks in that small sample of names to sling some more mud at my team?
Hey Raiders, don't even think about moving back to town
Amid all the congratulating over the city's approval of a downtown stadium plan, there lurks a possibility Al Davis' team could land back in L.A. And no good would come of that.
Would L.A.'s football dream turn into a nightmare if the Oakland Raiders moved back to town?
Would L.A.'s football dream turn into a nightmare if the Oakland Raiders… (Matthew Emmons / U.S. Presswire)
August 09, 2011|Bill Plaschke
I hate to interrupt the ticker-tape hug between city officials and AEG in the wake of Tuesday's agreement to build a downtown football stadium and bring the NFL back to Los Angeles, but ...
There is a group out there who could ruin all of this.
There is a group who could show up at Farmers Field dressed in havoc, bearing chaos and portending dread.
They are not neighborhood protesters, they are the sort that neighborhoods protest against. They are not environmentalists or economists, but, quite the opposite, they tear up the grass and take your money.
Hey, Oakland Raiders, if you are reading this, can you heed but one word from one man who was among many who celebrated in the summer of 1995 when you finally dragged your hack-and-silver act out of town?
Don't. Don't come back. Don't even think about coming back. Don't.
You are not welcome here, you are not wanted here, and if you can't see that, then you've been wearing that patch over both eyes.
I don't care how many Southland fans fill the local airport on autumn Sunday mornings for the legendary peanut-fight-filled Southwest Airlines caravans to Oakland. I don't care that, even with silver spikes occasionally sticking out of their heads, they are mostly good folks and tenacious supporters.
When it comes to the Los Angeles sports landscape, they are in the vast minority. This may still feel like a Raiders town, but, with a gleaming new stadium and dignified new hopes, this is a town that can no longer support the Raiders.
The NFL is thrilled that Tuesday's agreement appears to pave the way for the eventual return of two teams here. The NFL is excited that the clear leading candidate for the first slot is the San Diego Chargers, a team with Los Angeles roots and a decent south Orange County and Inland Empire fan base.
But the NFL is also quietly worried that the eternal opportunists known as the Raiders are circling and swooping and waiting for a chance to dive in and make a mess of everything.
What happens if, after a year of negotiating a difficult deal that will require concessions on both sides, AEG cannot come to an agreement with the Chargers? What if nobody on the minuscule list of other possible teams — Jacksonville, St. Louis, Buffalo, Minnesota — is prepared to move that soon?
What if Tim Leiweke finds himself with the money and approval to build a stadium but nobody is available to play there? When all hope is lost, when the only other option is the destruction of a dream, when the night is blackest and the fears are greatest … it's Raiders time!
Al Davis, who never wanted to leave Los Angeles in the first place and has always envisioned a joyful return, would suddenly look like Jerry Jones. Leiweke might suddenly feel he has no choice or, worse yet, be filled with the lofty notion that he could actually rebrand the Raiders. The league could attempt to block the move, but when has anybody truly stopped the Raiders from doing anything?
JREED wrote:But aren't raiders without a crap load of picks for the next draft? These days a 3rd round pick is not a low risk, most 3rd rounders are expected to be solid contributors if not starters by year 2.
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