tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:IMO Kidd was a better point guard than payton. Their defense was almost even (Payton was overhyped and kidd is underrated on defense, they were both 8 time all defense at this age), Payton never led the league in assists (the main PG category) whereas kidd was top five a baffling eleven times and first five times.
Kidd is a monster on the boards (which is where I think the magic comparison came from, though a better one would be the big O), Payton was only able to break 6 rpg when his best rebounding team mate was Vin Baker. Payton was a better scorer, but scoring isn't how I judge point guards, though it is considered. I'd take kidds superior all around game and leadership any day.
I agree that Kidd was more dominant than Payton and he also made his teammates better. Kidd's defense is not really acknowleged but he has always been good
TMC wrote:You know, I'm quite the opposite. I consider Payton underrated overall as a player. I don't think his defense is overrated. Getting in the head of the rivals is also a way to defend.
I love what Kidd brings to the table... but, IMO, he's the third best pg of his time, behind Payton and Stockton (unless I'm forgetting someone... and I'm not counting Nash, as he wasn't playing at his current level during that time).
All I know is that if I'm facing a decisive game, I'd rather go with Payton than Kidd (considering both in their prime).
I think Pauton was one of the best defenders of his era, up there with Jordan and Pippen but overall, he was not as good as Kidd. Kidd passes better and rebounds better. Payton was more of a scorer but he had to be on his sonics teams because they didn't have as many scorers as many people think they did. Kidd has also kept up his level of play while Payton has really fallen for the last three years