Overrated and Underrated NBA Teams
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Yeah, I can't wait 'til this season. So many possibilies...it makes the NBA such a great sport to watch. Who'll win this year? Who'll suprise us all? It'll be a fun season no doubt. My pick are the Suns depending on how Amare's knee is holding up. If Amare is back for sure then the Suns are a dangerous team. Amare, K. Thomas, Diaw, Bell, and Nash will be very interesting to watch.
Don't hate yourself in the morning... sleep 'til noon.
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Much to answer, let's go step by step:
I'm not doubting Carmelo. There's a chance that can happen, and I like Furious George as a coach... what I'm saying is that there are a lot of if's on that team. It could happen, but it's as you say, a long shot. btw, Ruben Patterson was traded to Milwaukee for Joe Smith (a move I can't say I like for Denver).
Chicago is, above any other consideration, a defensive team. That has always been the case since Skiles was hired. That won't chance this year. If anything, it will be emphasized with PJ Brown and Ben Wallace inside, and Nocioni, Deng, Duhon and Hinrich (who is underrated defensively). Those players are enough to have them as the best defensive team of the league for the next season. Tyrus Thomas will be able to help on defense, too. Gordon sucks on the defensive end... but he makes up for that by being the best offensive player of the team... something that most of his teammates aren't good at. They have a shot at winning the east.
Flip is a bad coach. Period. Bad rotations, a tendency to get outcoached in playoff games... He's one of those coaches that, somehow, someway, has a reputation of being good without ever excelling at anything. He'll have the Pistons out of the playoffs in the second round (if they make it there). Lebron can't always win by himself. I think he can go, at best, till the conference finals, but still needs something more from his teammates to make to the finals. Just an opinion, tho. (like everything I'm posting). Now migya:
You haven't seen Elson much, did you?. Elson is not a finesse player... if anything, Nesterovic and Butler are the finesse players out of that crop. Elson can't score outside (and not much inside) but he'll add hustle and defense. Similar to Mohammed, just a bit worse. I think it can work.
Marcus Banks sucks. They should trade him for Nick Van Exel. Ask #32.
See the previous comment about Flip. I also think the Pistons have the personnel to win it all... just not the head coach to do it. They'll have the same problem we had with Monty last year, but, due to their better roster, they'll make the playoffs. Mohammed was a good addition, tho, and I'd like to see him play 30 minutes per night, something he hasn't done in his whole career. I think he can be a pretty good center, but we have only seen flashes of that. |
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Ooooh, yeah... I forgot about that trade. Joe Smith is a good player, off the bench, for quick boards and scoring... but his defense (while solid) isn't as annoying and constant as Patterson's. Could be a good move (if Martin stays healthy), could be a bad one.
I believe LeBron's beginning to tap his ability of making those around him better. Varejo and Gooden in the playoffs were big examples. Remember: Michael Jordan basically made Scottie Pippen. If LeBron can turn Drew Gooden into the post threat he should have been out of college, than the team's got a real shot. I dunno if Drew can TOTALLY dominate the paint with Big Z's shadow underneath, but if Drew averages 16, 10, and 1.5... that should be more than good enough for Cleveland.
My Dragonzord beating the shiit out of Nick Van Exel's Beverly Hills chateau. Die, bitch. God I hate him. ![]() GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD ![]() ![]() |
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And, to think... I owe it to Nick Van Exel...
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Seems like everyone forgets how amazing the Nuggets played once Karl took over as coach! The Nugs are a great team and had a very bad season last season, they should get back to their previous form. They do need an outside shooter and I thought Voshon Lenard was decent but they traded him which was strange. They should have tried real hard to get Peja because he could have been the SG or SF (switching with Carmelo) and that could have worked out great
Flip is bad coach............ hmmmm......... the Pistons just came had their best regular season ever and they had hall of fame coach larry Brown before they got Flip
I haven't seen Elson play at all but I've read reviews that say he is not that much of a strength player and likely will never be. If he has no outside shot, that will be bad for the Spurs because they need a tough center to get the rebounds, putbacks and block the occassional shot
Looks like you have a bias against the TWolves (where Banks was last season). Banks is decent and will do better than most backup PGs replacing Nash, should Nash get injured. The Suns would be in major trouble though if Nash did get hurt
Again, the Pistons just had their best regular season ever. Enough said ![]() ![]() migya make the ring fall on ya |
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I think the Pistons have another year (maybe 2 for a stretch) in which they're in title contention.
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That's a good point. I forgot about that. ![]() GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS DIE HARD ![]() ![]() |
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Yeah, Flip is a pretty good coach, I do think Brown was suited to their team more though...
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dude your sig is huge lmao
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Big like dunnyboy is a big loser ![]() ![]() migya make the ring fall on ya |
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JP & broe got the biggest sigs on the site.
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With a roster created by Joe Dumars and previously coached by Larry Brown. A team with no changes since his championship year, playing in the East, which, like it or not, is the lesser conference... They were bound to have a great season even if Monty were the coach.
Elson will add hustle... not more, not less. That's more than what Nesterovic did for them. But he doesn't have an outside shot. In fact, he doesn't have an offensive game... but he's a decent rebounder for his size. Butler is the one that has a bit more polished offensive game, although that's what the Knicks say... he hasn't played enough to prove it.
I don't particularly like them, but I'm not biased against them. Actually, I'm biased against KG since he broke Rick Rickert's jaw in an offseason workout for just scoring on him. Of course, Minny cut Rickert before it became a bigger issue. Since then, I consider KG as an asshole and McHale as his bitch. btw, the Marcus Banks bashing is more of a tongue-in-cheek joke... I don't think he's that bad, just ok as a backup... but having him as one of the best future pgs of the NBA in another thread made me bash him more than he deserved, but in a funny way. |
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Having good players is a start but only a very good coach knows how to use them and then lead them to the best regular season they have ever had! If Larry Brown is a better coach, the Pistons would have won more games with him than with Flip. Flip just gets alot of heat for not taking the TWolves further in the playoffs but look at them now, they aren't even in the playoffs anymore ![]() ![]() migya make the ring fall on ya |
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