Jamison had a career year averaging far more threes than he ever has and more rebounds than he ever has also. Odom actually he had one of his worst seasons but on a team with Kobe, it is easy to understand why (
That doesn't mean anything. The bottom line is that Jamison had a better season. You weren't claiming that "Odom meant more to the Lakers than Jamison does to the Wizards" (which I would have agreed with). You were saying Odom is a better player than Jamison, which is simply false. Also, you mentioned above that Jamison had a career year in three's, but it still didn't propel his scoring any higher than it usually is. Antawn has a career average of 19.4 points per game. Lamar has never averaged more than 17. Not that the category matters all that much because Jamison averaged 39 from behind the arc and Odom averaged 37... they were pretty identical.
migya wrote:odom basically runs the offense for the Lakers. I've only seen three Lakers games this season but he was bringing the ball up the court and running the offense nearly all the time in each game.
Really? Which three games did you see? I've seen multiple Lakers games this season (over 10) and I've never seen Odom handle the ball (on an inbound pass) for more than 5-7 times a game (which is roughly the same amount of time Dunleavy gets per night). Like I said, he's a great push man who can handle the ball on the fast-break... but don't be mistaken into thinking Lamar was a 'point forward' of some kind. He's a good creator who can distribute on the break, dish inside the paint, and find a couple open men on the wings... but he's still outranked by Bryant, Parker and McKie when it comes to bringing the ball up the floor. Lamar's a better passer than Jamison (I agree), but let's not start saying the Lakers offense starts with Odom.
migya wrote:Odom is far more of a factor defensively than Jamison. Jamison gets some steals, which is good, but Odom blocks some shots as well as get steals and, though he is no super defender, he can guard star players quite well.
Like I said, Odom averages less than a steal and less than a block per night. Jamison (meanwhile) grabs 1.1 snags a game. The numbers speak for themselves. I acknowledged that Odom is a better on-the-ball defender for a big man
(key part), but neither players' game has ever been about blocking shots. Odom will smack 2 or 3 swats on players like Bruce Bowen, Mike Dunleavy, and Ron Artest because he's a lanky 6'10" player who rotates to guard small forwards... but he goes games at a time without getting one swat. That alone shows you that he's not the best on the ball defender; rather, he's an opportunistic 3 who takes advantage of playing the smaller guys, yet disappears when he has to pick on players like Kenyon Martin.
migya wrote:Odom scored far more than his average in the last month of the season, when the Lakers made their push for the playoffs. He is capable of scoring big but only does it when the Lakers need him to, as he showed in the series against the Suns where he averaged over 20pts a game.
This doesn't even need to be responded to. Every player comes up big against the Suns because they play no defense. However, put a guy like Lamar in a game against the Spurs (on March 30, in the final month of the season... which you're prasing very highly) and he'll shoot 30% from the field, throw 2 assists (which are cancelled out by his 2 turnovers), and come out of the game without one blocked shot (he played 43 minutes, too).
I'm afraid you're giving Odom far too much credit because he put up big numbers against the Suns in the first round. I'd agree with you if he did the same against any other team, but the truth is that the Suns are the team everybody has million-dollar nights with. Here's a list of fairly mediocre players who were made to look like league stars by the Phoenix Suns:
Mehmet Okur (Nov 18)
= 29 points, 9 boards, and 1 block... 11 points more than season average
Eddy Curry (Jan 2)
= 20 points, 15 boards, and 1 block... 7 points, 9 boards more than season average
Mike Dunleavy Jr (Dec 7)
= 21 points, 9 boards, 4 assists... 10 points, 5 rebounds above season average
Yao Ming (Feb 27)
= 27 points, 18 rebounds, 5 assists... 7 points, 8 boards, 4 assists above season average
Mike Miller (Nov 16)
= 24 points and 8 rebounds... 11 points, 3 rebounda above season average
Kinda getting the picture...? Lamar Odom averaged 15 points, 9 rebounds, and 5 assists for the season... but got an average of 18 points, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists when playing the Suns in the regular season. I think you may be giving him too much credit due to his recent playoff games against a team where he's averaged Dream Team like digits against all season...