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Stevie "Failing His" Franchise

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:12 pm
by drfrank
who'll trade for him.

t'wolves?
rockets?

i know hes been killing my fantasy team.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:18 pm
by migya
This season, Steve Francis has got to be one of the biggest disappointments! He is averaging career lows in everything and getting a shiit load of turnovers! He looks like he will never be the superstar that it was thought he would be!!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:52 am
by TMC
Francis has been a disaster waiting to happen the last few years. He's a clone of Starbury. Flashy, but ineffective.

Sadly, his best value right now will come when he becomes a expirer...

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:20 pm
by Thunder
He is a troubled guard who has never done anything to get his team far in the playoffs. Starbury clone is a perfect description. So naturally the T-Wolves will make a big push for him, probably giving up a lot of draft picks in the process.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:19 pm
by migya
The TWolves would be smart to develop Jaric and Hudson.

They could also be not so smart and trade KG to the Warriors! :mrgreen:

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:21 am
by migya
Just read that Francis didn't play in last game because he has been suspended by the Magic - Looks like Francis' time there could be ending!

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:16 am
by TMC
Yep, conduct detrimental to the team. He better asks for a trade, even if I'm not sure there'd be a lot of teams willing to take on that contract. Maybe Atlanta...

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:11 pm
by Yoyo
TMC wrote:Yep, conduct detrimental to the team. He better asks for a trade, even if I'm not sure there'd be a lot of teams willing to take on that contract. Maybe Atlanta...


Aren't the Hawks still millions below the salary cap?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:24 am
by TMC
Yeah. Not much, due to the Joe Johnson signing, but still several millions below.

But it's hard to get good pg's (even if Francis ain't a real one) nowadays, and there's no one available in the next free agent market who comes close to Francis' talent. They'd have to pick one in the draft (and I'm not sure if they'll have any picks this draft, as they sent a couple to Phoenix for JJ)

A trade would be a good option for Atlanta, and probably for Francis too.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:39 am
by migya
But a player that now is more a shooter than anything else is not the type of PG the Hawks need!

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:54 am
by TMC
Well, he'd be better than Tyronn Lue or Royal Ivey...

I don't think Francis has to be a disaster as a pro, but it would take a good coach to make him play like a team needs its pg to play. He hasn't had that coach til now.

Other option could be moving him to sg...

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:56 am
by migya
Not in the Hawks - JJ is SG

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:05 am
by TMC
Not anymore. That was their idea at the beginning of the season, but (not so surprisingly) failed.

He's back to sg (Lue and Ivey play most of the time at pg). Although he still plays some pg, it's more occasional than anything...

And the move to pg was a way to try to put in the court al their sf at the same time. He, his coach, everybody on the Hakws and the whole league knows JJ is not a pg.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:09 am
by migya
That was my point! He no longer is the PG but is the SG, so Francis couldn't be the SG in the Hawks

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:11 am
by TMC
Well, let him be the pg, then. He won't be any worse than what they already have...

He just needs to be back to what he was in Houston. The Hawks could be fighting for one of the last playoff seeds with that Francis.