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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:17 am
So the Fakers lose Ariza................and then replace him with Artest!!!

F*cking brilliant. :roll:

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The newly minted NBA champions made what amounts to a daring trade Thursday night, shaking up the league's second day of free agency by essentially swapping out on-the-rise swingman Trevor Ariza for the versatile, physical and famously unpredictable Ron Artest.

The Los Angeles Lakers and Artest have struck an agreement in principal on a multiyear contract that, according to sources close to the process, will total roughly $18.7 million over three years or $33.5 million over five years, depending on which contract structure Artest ultimately prefers. But they had to let Ariza go to create the financial flexibility to do so.

It was Artest, not surprisingly, who was the first to announce his forthcoming partnership with Kobe Bryant and his long-awaited move to the glamour capital of the Western Conference, sharing the news with CBSSports.com and writing in a text message to ESPN.com: "I am happy to say I am goin' to L.A."

ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported late Thursday that the financial aspects of the deal have not been finalized, in part because Artest's camp wants more time to weigh its options. Wednesday is the first day players can sign new contracts for the 2009-10 season, after the league announces the new salary-cap ceiling and luxury-tax threshold.

A five-year contract, which Broussard reports would include a player option on the fifth season, would bring Artest added security in case of injury. The shorter three-year deal, though, would enable Artest to return to free agency at 32, with full Larry Bird rights and the potential to sign a more lucrative deal with the Lakers or another team.

Either way, L.A. has made a sudden and surprising splash, at a time when it was widely expected that the Lakers would merely try this offseason to re-sign Ariza and Lamar Odom. ESPN.com reported Wednesday that Ariza was growing frustrated by the Lakers' reluctance to start his new contract higher than the projected mid-level exception for next season of $5.8 million and giving strong thought to signing elsewhere. The Lakers responded not by trying to cool tensions with one of their most important role players but by moving aggressively in another direction to reach terms with Artest instead.

The potential benefits of Artest's arrival are obvious, given his reputation as one of the game's elite defenders whose offense must also be respected. The Lakers have been frequently chided for what they lack in physicality -- at least they were until winning the championship last month for the first time since 2002 -- but that shouldn't be a concern with Artest around.

The concern will be Artest's ability to operate as a role player and reign in his occasionally suspect shot selection alongside Pau Gasol, Odom and Bryant, even though he counts the latter two as two of his closest friends in the game. "Now that we'll have the same purple and gold on, it's going to be that much better," Artest said of his relationship with Bryant in an interview with SportsCenter Thursday night.

Artest is coming off perhaps his best season of citizenship and production, having helped the Houston Rockets reach the second round of the playoffs even after Tracy McGrady was lost to a season-ending knee injury, but cynics dismissed Artest's compliance as a byproduct of the fact that he was in a contract year.

The Lakers, though, ultimately reached the conclusion that Artest's versatility and physical presence were worth gambling on in spite of the player's reputation and even at the expense of sacrificing the sticky defense and increasingly clutch play Ariza supplied throughout the playoffs at age 24. They'll be depending heavily on the presence of 10-ringed coach Phil Jackson on L.A.'s bench to manage Artest and try to get him to mesh as well as Ariza did.

In his text message to ESPN.com, Artest said that he verbally committed to the Lakers after a lunch meeting Thursday with Lakers owner Jerry Buss and speaking by phone to Jackson. Artest, 29, was also briefly pursued by the Cleveland Cavaliers to join LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal but said that L.A. -- where Artest likes to spend the bulk of his offseason -- was always his preference.

"I am very excited to finally be going to L.A.," Artest said in a statement. "For years now, the Lakers have expressed interest in having me play for them, but we could never get the stars to align. I'm finally a Laker and I can't wait to get on the court with Kobe, Pau and the rest of the team, and play for Phil.

"The Lakers really made me feel wanted. . . . I look forward to helping the Lakers defend their championship, and it will be great to finally not get booed in the Staples Center.

Artest told ESPN he was disappointed that the Rockets were not more aggressive in their attempt to keep him and that he was happy with what he'll make as a Laker, despite the fact that he will be taking a pay cut after earning $7.4 million in his only season in Houston.

"I've made money over my time in the NBA, I lost money when David Stern suspended me [in 2006 for his role in the infamous Pacers-Pistons brawl]," Artest told ESPN. "I'm not playing for the money anymore."


Ps: Im ignoring all the other "free agent" threads and will only post these in here. :wink:
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:09 am
Lakers either got a great deal or obtained a disaster. I reckon it will work for at least one year, after that Artest may prop up again as a bad attitude of sorts.

Ariza will get at least the MLE from some team I think, maybe more as he was on the championship team
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migya wrote:Lakers either got a great deal or obtained a disaster. I reckon it will work for at least one year, after that Artest may prop up again as a bad attitude of sorts.

Ariza will get at least the MLE from some team I think, maybe more as he was on the championship team


He's playing under Phil Jackson and he is NOT the man. Kobe is the man, and Gasol is his sidekick. So Artest better be ready to take on that 3rd option role. He's better off that way, anyway. If he's a first option, it's all bad. Anyways, from yahoo sources, he's signing a 3-year contract worth 18 million! Are you kidding me? About only 6 million a year for Artest? I would think he could get around 8-9 million, to be honest.

And Ariza signed with the Rockets for the MLE.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:18 am
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migya wrote:Lakers either got a great deal or obtained a disaster. I reckon it will work for at least one year, after that Artest may prop up again as a bad attitude of sorts.

Ariza will get at least the MLE from some team I think, maybe more as he was on the championship team


He's playing under Phil Jackson and he is NOT the man. Kobe is the man, and Gasol is his sidekick. So Artest better be ready to take on that 3rd option role. He's better off that way, anyway. If he's a first option, it's all bad. Anyways, from yahoo sources, he's signing a 3-year contract worth 18 million! Are you kidding me? About only 6 million a year for Artest? I would think he could get around 8-9 million, to be honest.


Artest is weird, sure, but he hasn't been a problem since he left Indy. Since then, he's been mostly benefitial for any franchise that has had him, so I think it's about time we get rid of that "problematic" label that goes with his name. He's been a great teammate and player in both Sacramento and Houston (particularly at Houston), so I think it's time to give him props not only for his game, but also for his behavior.

There aren't many players like him willing to take a pay cut at this point of his career (it'd be different if he were, say, 6 or 7 years older) to play for a contender and have a chance to win a ring (or several).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:06 am
brilliant signing by the Lakers. Man, talk about wing (perimeter) defense! When they want to lock you down, Kobe and Artest on perimeter is scary good.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:38 pm
xbay wrote:
migya wrote:
And Ariza signed with the Rockets for the MLE.



I read that it was for more than that?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:07 pm
Turboglue made a verbal with the Blazers today but then backed out for some unknown reason.

Speculation is that the "unknown reason" is 6 million more bucks from Toronto...but nothing is confirmed...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:32 pm
bada wrote:brilliant signing by the Lakers. Man, talk about wing (perimeter) defense! When they want to lock you down, Kobe and Artest on perimeter is scary good.


was thinking that myself. Should be the best perimeter D since Jordan and Pippen
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:37 am
Tarantism wrote:Turboglue made a verbal with the Blazers today but then backed out for some unknown reason.

Speculation is that the "unknown reason" is 6 million more bucks from Toronto...but nothing is confirmed...


It is now. Turkoglu is a Raptor. 5 year, $53 million deal.


And I must say, it's a good deal for both sides. I mean, it's gonna be a bad contract in the long run, but Toronto had to do something like this, because they HAVE to win now, as any other case would mean losing Bosh for nothing after the season. Now, if they have a good season, they have a chance to keep him.

And it's also a good thing for the Blazers, mind you. I don't think Turkoglu has more than a couple of good seasons in him left.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:40 am
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Tarantism wrote:Turboglue made a verbal with the Blazers today but then backed out for some unknown reason.

Speculation is that the "unknown reason" is 6 million more bucks from Toronto...but nothing is confirmed...


It is now. Turkoglu is a Raptor. 5 year, $53 million deal.


And I must say, it's a good deal for both sides. I mean, it's gonna be a bad contract in the long run, but Toronto had to do something like this, because they HAVE to win now, as any other case would mean losing Bosh for nothing after the season. Now, if they have a good season, they have a chance to keep him.

And it's also a good thing for the Blazers, mind you. I don't think Turkoglu has more than a couple of good seasons in him left.




Raps need Turkoglu alot more than Blazera and maybe now they can be something in the East for a while. If they don't resign Bosh in a year, at least they will have money to get another big
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:11 pm
Blazers might extend offer to Lee:


In the wake of losing Hedo Turkoglu, the Portland Trail Blazers have become engaged in serious discussions about making an offer to New York Knicks restricted free agent David Lee, ESPN.com learned Saturday.

The development came a day after Lee's agent said a dozen NBA teams are trying to find ways to acquire the power forward through sign-and-trade deals.

But like other interested teams, the Blazers are concerned that they would be placed in limbo until July 15 -- the date by which the Knicks would have to decide whether they'd match the offer -- and could lose out if other free agents take themselves off the market in the interim by rushing to get what they can of the league's dwindling amount of available dollars.

The upside of the Turkoglu turnaround for Portland was that it left them as one of the strongest remaining players in free agency, with $9 million worth of salary cap space they're clearly ready to spend.
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Tarantism wrote:Blazers might extend offer to Lee:


In the wake of losing Hedo Turkoglu, the Portland Trail Blazers have become engaged in serious discussions about making an offer to New York Knicks restricted free agent David Lee, ESPN.com learned Saturday.

The development came a day after Lee's agent said a dozen NBA teams are trying to find ways to acquire the power forward through sign-and-trade deals.

But like other interested teams, the Blazers are concerned that they would be placed in limbo until July 15 -- the date by which the Knicks would have to decide whether they'd match the offer -- and could lose out if other free agents take themselves off the market in the interim by rushing to get what they can of the league's dwindling amount of available dollars.

The upside of the Turkoglu turnaround for Portland was that it left them as one of the strongest remaining players in free agency, with $9 million worth of salary cap space they're clearly ready to spend.



Unless the Blazers really don't mind paying luxury tax in two or so years, they need to take into account resigning the many young players they have whose rookie contracts are going to end
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:54 pm
I don't really understand where Lee would play there anyway...they have Oden and Pryzbilla at the 5, and Aldridge at the 4.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:56 pm
Yeah, they still have to worry about how to pay guys like Brandon Roy, Jerryd Bayless, and LaMarcus Aldridge once their rookie contracts end. Then, you have your role players. So they outta think about that deal for Lee. Is he worth it? I don't think so.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:02 pm
Yeah but knee jerk signings are strange sometimes...like us overpaying a one dimensional wing player last year because the FO wanted to make a "splash" signing after we lost Davis.
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